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A Contagious Smile Podcast
Stop surviving and start thriving. A Contagious Smile is a globally ranked podcast providing a safe haven for abuse survivors and special needs families navigating the journey of trauma recovery. Whether you are healing from domestic violence, narcissistic abuse, childhood trauma, or the daily challenges of disability advocacy, our mission is to turn your pain into power.
Each episode features raw, authentic conversations with survivors, mental health experts, and advocates who share actionable resources for PTSD healing, resilience building, and emotional wellness. We go beyond the struggle to highlight the triumphs of the special needs community, offering support for caregivers and individuals with disabilities who are rewriting their own narratives.
Hosted by Victoria Cuore, an award-winning trauma advocate and survivor, this podcast delivers the "blueprints" for recovery—not just Band-Aids. Join our community to find hope, humor, and the unstoppable spirit needed to rekindle your inner light.
A Contagious Smile Podcast
Celebrating Milestones and Navigating Parenting: Victoria's Advocacy Achievements, Pet Quirks, and Disciplining with Compassion
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As Victoria celebrates her recent guardian ad litem state certification, we prance into a conversation that swerves from the humor in our dogs' odd licking habits to the gravity of advocating for children in the legal system. I'm not far behind with my own announcement as a new counselor for the amputee coalition, proving that personal triumphs come in many forms, including the four-legged variety that enjoys a good slobber. Our camaraderie crackles through the airwaves, as we not only toast to each other's achievements but also tackle the quirky side of pet ownership that often leaves us both baffled and belly-laughing.
The laughter gives way to a more earnest debate on the evolution of discipline and respect from our own childhoods in the 70s and 80s to today's family dynamics. We don't shy away from the thorny aspects of parenting as we share tales of teenage rebellion and the search for a middle ground between authority and understanding. Reflecting on the controversial use of corporal punishment, we dissect societal norms and share how our experiences have shaped our stance on non-violent behavior correction. Join us for a journey that's as enlightening as it is entertaining, packed with personal insights and a refreshing take on guiding the next generation.
Victoria's New Certifications and Dog Licking
Speaker 1What are we talking about? Howdy ho? This is Michael. Another episode of Unstoppable, with Victoria and me and our three goldens in here right now Uno, Stucco and Rusty. And they're kind of hyper right now because I came in here, so hello wife.
Speaker 2Hello husband.
Speaker 1What's our topics tonight?
Speaker 2I was floored that this was your suggestion to do this early, because it's like pulling teeth sometimes to get you to participate in the production of a podcast.
Speaker 1Look, I barely have education from high school. Okay, you have multiple. Whatever, I don't want to go.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't do all that.
Speaker 1And you speak very eloquent Eloquence. And yeah, you have all the knowledge up in that noodle of yours. Y'all quit licking each other. Ah, you're gross. Why do y'all dogs lick each other's mouths? Nasty?
Speaker 2I could ask you, never mind, so how was your day?
Speaker 1Great.
Speaker 2I was your day great.
Speaker 1Because I came home to you, that's very good, and our daughter was your day. Great, because I came home to you.
Speaker 2That's very good, and our daughter, my husband, does not like for them to lick him, even though back in the day he had plenty of bitches licking on him.
Speaker 1I'm just saying okay, so let's bring this up how many of you, uh dog owners, like allow or let your dogs lick you?
Speaker 2I see it all the time In videos and stuff, all the time.
Speaker 1They eat shit. They eat their own shit.
Speaker 2This is going to get very hey, hey, leave that alone.
Speaker 1They eat anything dead in the yard.
Speaker 2That sounds like a male slut's.
Speaker 1previous no it could be a female dog, okay, okay, but let's look at a gigolo man.
Speaker 2Let's look at a man who goes.
Speaker 1That sounds like a male slut's previous. No, it could be a female dog. Okay, okay, but let's not get a gigolo man. Let's look at a man who goes from woman to woman to woman to woman?
Speaker 2Let's look at a man who uses the term gigolo. Let's look at a man stop going out in left field and let's look at a man who goes from one bit to another, bit I'm talking about dogs and makes out with them, and then goes after another woman the same night, and then lets all that shit be up in their mouth. And we're going to complain about our dogs, why?
Speaker 1Because all of them are in heat. So the question is, how many of y'all allow your dogs to lick you? Can I say me for you oh, dog's mouth is the cleanest. Oh, okay, uh-huh right.
Speaker 2And what about a cheating spouse whose mouth isn't so? Clean when the significant other is putting other things that shouldn't be there and then coming home to their spouse.
Speaker 1Thank you for listening to Take a Smile Unstoppable with Victoria Michael.
Speaker 2Hey, I had a pretty good morning, I have to say.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2We can't say where.
Speaker 1She has led into the reason I wanted to do the podcast.
Speaker 2You can't say where.
Speaker 1Because we're always on the same page.
Speaker 2Except for the topic of putting stuff in your mouth.
Speaker 1So last time my wife I came home and my wife had received another doctorate.
Speaker 2Whatever, what are you talking?
Speaker 1about my yeehaw. Whatever, my yeehaw was not up to expectations, so now that she has received state certification in guardian, ad litem, ad, litem, ad, um, yeah, so I'm saying a big woohoo for my wife, yeehaw. Yay, hurrah shazah, whatever.
Speaker 2congratulations, victoria on getting state certified I'm so excited because I get to work with these amazing kids who have been pulled from their homes and basically be the eyes and ears for our judges to get off my stucco butt. Oh, that's, uno, go ahead. So, uh, I get to be the eyes and ears for the judges to figure out what kind of care plan is needed and the services that these kiddos need and how to make their life better, and so the only thing left is really get off of me. This is his dog. He's talking to us. So the only thing left is that I have to go and get sworn in as an officer of the court by the judges, and so that should be no later than next week, which I'm very excited about.
Speaker 1Yes, we are, because now we know that, uh, these kids will have a fierce shark and the kiddie pool fighting for them, and that's just what some of them need to give them a second, third, fourth chance.
Speaker 2You know, sometimes they don't ask for the situation they're in no, and somebody's got to stand up and and advocate for these kids and really be there. Just snorted, you did snort, instead of just passing the buck. Some of these kids go through caseworker after caseworker, through defects, and then they, if they get a guardian item which isn't always then you know some of these kids just get, you know, they fall through the cracks and it's heart-wrenching because it really is sad.
Speaker 1It's not these kids fault at all so y'all uh be sure to congratulate vict Victoria.
Speaker 2However, you can get a hold of her and we totally forgot about this whole thing.
Speaker 1He's looking Look at my old main glasses. You're a volunteer, certified peer visitor.
Speaker 2Counselor, I'm now a certified counselor For the amputee coalition.
Speaker 1Of course you are.
Speaker 2As well. So I can counsel um amputees, of course you can. Hey, I just got my my identification card in the mail and I was pretty excited all right y'all, let's give her a hand you're an asshole. You don't have to worry about any extra handouts. Later I'll tell you that. Oh, no, no, nothing on that one, no, yeah.
Speaker 1I see, I see. So what's on? The horizon you have. You've written some new books. I have a lot of activity books for kids.
Speaker 2I've even done one for foster children. That's awesome, and now we're doing classes, online classes, things of that nature from how to just let your social media footprint soar to gaining followers. I was looking at our Instagram and I don't know if you follow it as closely, but in the last like 24 hours, our Instagram has gained like another 18,000 followers and like since I last saw you, and I want to do a huge shout out to Lisa Leslie, who sent a message which was so nice, nice. She is like an inspiration to all women because you know, she's a multi-time gold winning medalist for the olympics, representing oh, that's the woman I heard and then, um, she's like total badass basketball, nba and all the dogs just went kaplow and took all of my husband's hoarding.
Speaker 2Can't contain his organizational pile of crap in the corner of the office. Down with it.
Speaker 1Those are your legal pads.
Speaker 2Negatory mi amore. That's not true. That's absolutely not correct.
Speaker 2so proceed with Lisa Leslie she's an amazing woman and she's an inspiration to women and to girls, especially little girls. We need positive role models for little girls these days, because you know who are they gonna look at? Taylor Swift, don't even get me started on the Swifties, like we don't have enough time for that, but like, really, who out there is a woman that little girls can look up to? Now, I mean they're not, as they don't come around as frequently, as am I boring you because you're yawning or does that? Um, I just woke up from a four hour 10 minute nap.
Speaker 1I worked today.
Speaker 2And then you had a four hour nap.
Speaker 1I barely had 30 minutes.
Speaker 2Wrong. You want to get faith.
Speaker 1Okay, it was maybe an hour.
Speaker 2You want to get faith.
Speaker 1And a half.
Speaker 2Do you want me to get our daughter in here?
Speaker 1But it was more like 10 minutes.
Speaker 2No, it was four hours. Yes, yes, it was. But the boys need a positive role model too, not just girls. I mean so like, and now I heard today you're going to say what there so like. And now I heard today I you're gonna say what there is a new term called I might say it wrong, so I apologize to anyone out there I might offend fray sexual. It's the newest lgbtq fray sexual. Okay, I think it's right. F-r-a-y sexual. I think I'm.
Speaker 2I don't want to mispronounce it, but it is when you are attracted and want to have sexual relations with a stranger more than being with someone. You know that's the new term. Like a total stranger. Just that's the. That I noticed and learned that today. That's like a new terminology. I can't keep up with all these terms and I feel bad because I'm like okay, I just learned what like a pansexual is and a and metasexual and there's so many terms to to learn. You know, and now when you go to the doctor or you go to the hospital, they have their pronouns on their cards, on their id cards, so she, her there, or whatever, because they find everybody finds it offensive if you address them incorrectly so this generation will pass on the terminology to their kids, if, if they have kids or foster or surrogate kids, whatever, and then that group will slightly pass it on to their kids and then by the fourth generation it'll start fading out I don't know about all that, wow.
Speaker 2I mean, I think that kids today not 50 years in this, not all kids by any, but a good number of kids these days feel entitled and they feel like they don't owe certain things, like things should just be given to them and handed to them.
Speaker 1Oh no, you owe me to clean your room, to do the dishes, to do laundry.
Speaker 2Right, but I'm saying I mean that's the least she can do for your parents right.
Discipline and Respect
Speaker 2But then you have kids that are like oh, I know I might have really royally screwed up and done something just for get fully bad and I'm gonna like stop talking to you or stop being around you or ignore you or whatever the case may be, but in order to get me back, I want x, y and z, like that. That is not okay. Like I was helping a family and I was just reading about them and there was a family and the mom had a son and the stepdad was trying to get him to go play whatever softball, baseball, whatever and he bought him a glove and it was the wrong glove, like it was the. He had asked him to go with him to buy a glove and the kid was like no. So he picked up a glove this is a teenage boy and he picked up the glove. Um, the dad, the stepdad, brought the glove home and said hey, why don't we go out in the backyard and throw? And he was like why I can do it on my video games, you know, leave me alone, whatever.
Speaker 2So he stopped speaking to him altogether and was like you annoyed me because you went out and got the wrong glove, and he's like I tried to take you to show me the right glove to get. He's like you don't even know how to play. So it's an insult. Like if I had spoken to my grandparents like that, I would have been knocked into my 50s. Like it's mind-blowing that. And kids today just not all, but a lot of them have no reserve or filter when it comes to how they speak to elders. They just feel like they can say whatever they want and play the oh you're offending me card, so stop. And that is not okay.
Speaker 1Yeah, you already know, I grew up in the 80s. No, is not okay. Yeah, you already know, I grew up in the 80s.
Speaker 2No, you didn't. You grew up in the 70s.
Speaker 1Half of 70s, 80s, but I got my ass whooped by a belt. I had to go pick out my own switch, my own instrument of torture. You probably picked out the thinnest little tiny, twiggy thing. No, you get the thicker ones. Why the aerodynamics on the thin ones? Oh, I get chills. I get goosebumps right now thinking about that stinging.
Speaker 2How many times do you think you got whacked?
Speaker 1Whacked, I got whooped. I didn't get whacked, I got whooped. How many times did you get whooped? Those of y'all out there laughing at me, I'm laughing.
Speaker 2I never got hit Never. I didn't say hit. I didn't get spanked, popped slapped, no, none of it.
Speaker 1Really, really, y'all should see her face.
Speaker 2I think I did more than made up for later in life, but she did me seriously, like I lived, like I didn't want to ever disappoint my grandparents, ever, ever, ever. And I remember the first time I said damn in front of you know I was like oh my god, I'm so sorry, but I never got popped. Even my bios never popped or spanked, or they just ignored you, which to me is worse.
Speaker 1Well, you know, we don't advocate for beating the hell out of kids and we don't advocate for spanking.
Speaker 2I don't agree with spanking.
Speaker 1But I believe in whooping. I don't, and you know it didn't hurt me too bad.
Speaker 2Well.
Speaker 2I mean literally, but here's my question we're going to go ahead and start court. Here's my question. So there are schools where kids get whacked or whooped by a teacher. Now how is that okay when a teacher can go up and discipline a child, and it's justified. But if a parent whooped a child and they came to school, defects was called and an investigation was opened. So how is it okay that a stranger, basically, who is teaching or supposedly teaching our kids, can do it, but a parent cannot? That is a double standard. Because I'll tell you what, if any of our kids ever got whacked by a teacher, holy shit. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1Okay, so maybe it's the paper trail involved. Okay, the kid does something he's not supposed to, against the rules. It's called a principal's office. It's now documented by a teacher. Now the principal has verified it and disciplinary action is written down on paper.
Speaker 2uh, insult, suspension, or you know detention relict okay would you allow any of our children to get licked by someone at school? Let's rephrase that all right, okay, would you allow any of our children to get paddled by a teacher?
Speaker 2yes I would. You would. Yes, you know what I would do. I'd go in there, I'd tell the teacher, or I'd tell the student that got whooped by it to hold that that board. I'm gonna say let me show you how I got my national title hold that board. I'll show how I break it. And I would break that board and put it on the desk and say do it again.
Speaker 2No teacher has a right to go and put hands on a kid, just like a person doesn't have a right to put their hands in an unwarranted manner on another person. There are ways to discipline without violence. I'm sorry, but faith has never been popped. She's never been spanked, whooped, whipped, whatever you want to call it. And everybody talks about how resilient, sweet, amazing this kid is. You don't have to be whooped, there's a way around it. Like instead, when she did wrong because she's a normal human kid and they all do wrong at some point in time I would always say to her you know what? I don't like what you did. I love you with every beat of my heart. I don't like what you did, so let's try to find a way to correct it, but I still love you.
Speaker 2And this was your choice. Your action was your choice, so let's learn from it. That's why a pencil has an eraser. Or you chose not to do your homework, so now you're choosing to have that phone turned off at a certain time. That was a choice you made. I'm not taking the phone away from you. You are choosing to not have your phone because you chose not to complete your schoolwork. Because you chose not to complete your schoolwork, and that is what makes a huge difference. It's about respect. How do you expect our kids to respect us if we don't respect them? And there is a million different ways.
Speaker 2Right, but first Without laying hands thank you, rusty without laying hands on them in a disciplinary action.
Speaker 1You know, it's like one of the only things we disagree on.
Speaker 2Well, I'll blame your mom on that.
Speaker 1Because there are kids out there that, 100% in my opinion, they need to be whooped.
Speaker 2There's other ways to discipline them without having to whoop them, right, without having to whoop them. I understand that.
Speaker 1But there's also ways to discipline them by whooping them. I understand that, but there's also ways to discipline and Bible-proof?
Speaker 2No, absolutely don't agree. Because everybody today says, oh, you beat your wife. Well, guess what? You must have gotten beat as a child, so it's okay that you're beating your wife because you had a bad childhood, so it's okay, and they justify it as such. No, it's not. I have the right to have a freaking mental breakdown and I never have. That's just not acceptable.
Speaker 2Like today, the laziness of everybody, okay, instead of trying to get to the root of the problem and figure it out and make a correction and learn from it, just paddle. Paddle doesn't correct it, it's just, you know, a quick fix. It's like a Band-Aid that's not really going to go and make the situation close up. So now today we have cars that park themselves, cars that drive themselves. You know these are things that make it okay to be absolutely lazy and we wonder why kids feel like they are so just earned, the right for everything. And there's a way around it without hitting your kid. I was never paddled. You sit there and say, okay, that explains it. I've never been incarcerated, never been detained, I mean.
Speaker 1Why have you never been incarcerated?
Speaker 2Why have I never been incarcerated? I've never did anything illegal.
Speaker 1Well, is that the same reason? You've never been paddled? No, but I'm just saying you didn't break the rules in school.
Speaker 2No, I did. You didn't make discipline, but I, you know, of course, I skipped school once.
Speaker 1Skipping school is not disciplinary.
Speaker 2I'm just saying, but that's true. I am saying that not every kid has to go through like some physical altercation. No kid should have to go and get it. And why do you think they're bad? Because they want attention somewhere, because they're getting negative attention at home and so they need an outcry. They need a safe place, and their safe place should be at home. And if they aren't having a safe home, that's where I get to start coming in and find them one.
Speaker 1That's right, because you're now a gal.
Speaker 2I'm a gal and I'll tell you what I like. Wait till you find some guy who I find is beating up on a kid, and then that's going to be a problem. Seriously, there is no reason I'm mad at you Go away, uno. Seriously, there is no reason I'm mad at you go away. Oh no, there is no reason at all. For some kid. Okay, let me ask you this karma what age do you think is too old to paddle a kid?
Speaker 1um too old. Probably you're getting about 14, 15. They should have learned life's lessons up till then.
Speaker 2So you have kids that are sexually active in elementary school now and you think that and these kids are endowed and you know they're like when I was in elementary school we didn't look like we had already started puberty and now these fifth graders look like they're high schoolers and you like to think that somebody can walk up and just spank them for any reason is absolutely not OK.
Speaker 1They need to learn how school I'm talking in general- you don't just want to spank a child for no reason some people do well, no, that's, that's child abuse okay okay, just like when I was in law enforcement, if I caught you breaking the law, you got whooped, you went to jail.
Speaker 2That was but you didn't okay, but you didn't get physically abused. Sometimes I had to get physical with them.
Speaker 1Seriously, seriously. I had to get in fights, whether it was passive resistance, aggressive resistance.
Speaker 2But when you're talking about an adolescent individual who is not even developed completely in every way, whether it be neurological, psychological to say it's okay, oh, because you didn't clean your room that I'm gonna pop you on your butt or whatever. Do you think that's really gonna make a difference? Do you think they're gonna clean the room the next day? They're gonna be like, okay, it's gonna sting for a minute, let's go. No, go to bed early, take away something. Let them earn it back. There's so many other ways to go about this besides just whack and be done like. I'll argue this all day long there. There is no justification to me that would make it okay to hit a kid.
Speaker 1There you go again, hitting a kid.
Speaker 2Popping, spanking, paddling. When your hand or something within your hand makes physical contact with a child, that's hitting. Whether it's hitting with a twig, a paddle, a belt, whatever, it's just the adjective used to describe it. The point is that it's making physical contact with the child, which is inexcusable okay, so I can see that we will not progress in this subject because I'm right. No, yes, and I say you were right.
Speaker 1You don have to. You're right in your own opinion.
Speaker 2If somebody God forbid.
Speaker 1Oh Lord, here we go.
Speaker 2Hit faith. What are you going to do?
Speaker 1There's a hole.
Speaker 2So that makes you a hypocrite I don't care no. What? No, that's what. That's what. What's good for the?
Speaker 1goose is good for the gander, so that's what I reserve the right. No, not in my courtroom.
Speaker 2That's why, say it, my wife wins. That's why I'm the wild card Overruled. That is why I am the wild card, I am the expert.
Speaker 1Yeah, this is why y'all love her.
Speaker 2Because I will battle for somebody that needs to have someone stand up in their corner and I will not back down. But seriously, if somebody hit any of our kids, hell, have no fury than a redhead. I mean, it's not like I leave fingerprints. Why don't you have a judge?
Speaker 1on. I've had a judge. Same questions. I mean, it's not like I leave fingerprints. Why don't you have a judge on?
Speaker 2I've had a judge, same questions I have.
Speaker 1Your Honor, in your opinion, do you believe that these kids should have been whooped?
Speaker 2I've had this conversation already With whom Judge Christopher Callahan.
Speaker 1Okay, on air.
Speaker 2Yeah, go way back and check it out. You've got over 200 podcasts under your belt. Well, that's how many I've done and produced, not how many I've been on. So, chris told you from the very beginning I've known him forever and a day and he was like a brother to me. Node see what I'm getting that redneck way about me, I guess for that n-o-d-e-d w-e-b-s-t-e-r y'all, she's so damn cute yes, what you say about fat kids and babies am I discriminating against skinny people?
Parenting Styles and Discipline Debates
Speaker 2no, you told me when we were dating that if I gained weight, here we go, you would break up with me. And did I? I didn't gain any weight. I was obsessed. You dealt me Because you lied to me for four and a half years about your marital status. It didn't help it. I was married. You never told me that.
Speaker 1Well, I did.
Speaker 2The day I broke up with you and now look where we are. The day I broke up with you and now look where we are. The day I broke up with you, you don't care why is it a little warm in here?
Speaker 2no, my boo man chew goatee but in all fairness I will defend you is that you have literally turned yourself into a 180 in comparison. Like you kept all the amazing great things about the man I fell in love with back then, but then the stuff that was just not as great as others you've gotten rid of and become such a like an asset to me and to faith and y'all heard her.
Speaker 1She said I've become an ass.
Speaker 2No, you've always been an ass but like, you've always been my rock and my best friend and my soulmate, my partner. Except you just went, you know, around the corner of you know super stupid for a minute with this whole like paddle thing. Because I'm telling you, if somebody came up and said I whacked faith, you would be like fighting to get out the door before me and I'd already be gone. So you can and you should see his face right now because he's just saying I know, dear, you're right, I know, I know. So what's next? A doctor can hit a kid because a teacher can get.
Speaker 2A doctor can they always caused that pain so and you don't think sitting in a teacher in a classroom with some boring ass teacher who doesn't know her ass from her elbow isn't painful?
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Because you skip so much. That's why, before I went to sleep, not you, yes, you slept in class.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2You never slept in any of my classes.
Speaker 1Teacher told me to bring a pillow.
Speaker 2You had your own chair in the principal's office. You never slept in any of my classes. I taught what are you humming? What is humming?
Speaker 1Okay, I didn't sleep in your class, you didn't Y'all. That does not mean that she's old.
Speaker 2No, I taught him in-service training for law enforcement and he never slept in any of my classes Ever. It's a good thing you're hot, that's all I'm going to say. So have you changed your mind and willing to admit now that you were incorrect in the statement of?
Speaker 1No, I still believe in whooping.
Speaker 2No, well, it's amazing, yet still, faith has never been whooping. No.
Speaker 1Well, it's amazing, yet still, Faith has never been whooped, so as a canine officer we train the dogs with correction.
Speaker 2Sometimes that correction Are you comparing a dog to a child.
Speaker 1I'm comparing the training.
Speaker 2This is going to be really good. Go ahead, no.
Speaker 1That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2Well, why don't you finish your statement? Because you're kind of leaving it half answered by what you said.
Speaker 1Some kids need to be trained.
Speaker 2Without violence.
Speaker 1Without violence.
Speaker 2So no, whooping.
Speaker 1And if no violence Without violence.
Speaker 2You just said without without violence. Came out of your mouth without violence maybe they need their little butt whooped.
Speaker 1No, when they're young, excuse me.
Speaker 2No, keep them from becoming worse so then, how do you justify it when I've had so many people come to me and say well, he got spanked when he was little, he got beat when he was little from his parents. So that's why he beats me and I can't leave my husband because I, you know, there's a difference.
Speaker 1What's the difference?
Speaker 2And as a, as a boy or a girl growing up, they know that difference when they haven't even developed the. The, the frontal lobe of their brain, isn't even developed until they're in their 20s. So they're gonna know back then. When the, the frontal lobe isn't even developed yet, they're gonna know back then. Oh, I might be eight, but it's okay that I didn't eat my pee, so let me pull my pants down and let daddy go get a switch, okay that sounded perverted.
Speaker 1but we're not dealing with the frontal lobe, we're dealing with the buttocks. Okay, that's insane. There's a lot of buttocks and meat back there.
Speaker 2But yet faith has never been spanked.
Speaker 1How many kids have died from my butt whooping on the butt?
Speaker 2I'm sure we can find some.
Speaker 1On the butt.
Speaker 2It doesn't justify it.
Speaker 1How many comments do you think we get about this?
Speaker 2A lot and they're all going to say you're wrong.
Speaker 1Right, they're going to say Victoria, you're wrong.
Speaker 2No, they're going to say you're wrong.
Speaker 1And then we're going to have someone say, oh, I'm a swinger, I'm on the fence.
Speaker 2We'll get like a Jill.
Speaker 1As long as we don't get a Jill. The one who? What was that word? You used A frayism, fray sexual Fray sexual yes.
Speaker 2Yay, what if you got Jill?
Speaker 1I don't want a Jill.
Speaker 2No, that's the one who Remember Jill's, the one who came after me.
Speaker 1Jill's an idiot. Jill's the one who came after me. Jill's just an idiot.
Speaker 2She's the one who said you know, girls should be able to wear skippy sklad clothes. So does that make it okay that the boyfriend popped the girl? If she's not acting accordingly to their, their set of standards? Why? A teacher can do it. So why is it Okay? A teacher can do it. So why is it okay a teacher can do it? A step parent can do it. A parent can do it.
Speaker 1So now, Okay, a law enforcement officer can do it.
Speaker 2He can get charged.
Speaker 1He could, but he's in.
Speaker 2It's different if he's only escalated one level above.
Speaker 1Okay, hi, I'm Officer Michael. I'm on the scene. Sir, please drop the weapon. You're under arrest for discharging a firearm in public.
Speaker 2Okay, but now that's deadly force and he's already threatening your life. No, he's dropped the gun, okay, but then you start at a much lower level. Put your hands behind your back.
Speaker 1No F you officer.
Speaker 2Where's the taser, if he's? Afflicting to run and refuses to listen. You went straight to the taser. I'm not going to say use deadly force.
Speaker 1You know how bad the taser hurts.
Speaker 2Yes, I've been tased. Okay, it hurts, I know. I have the video of you getting a Compared to a whooping. That is not the same thing. Why not? He just tried to kill somebody. No, no, I said he discharged a firearm in public. Okay, what if it hit somebody? You didn't tell me if it hit anybody or not. I didn't. Okay, so we don't know at this point. Okay, where's the gun? It's on the ground.
Speaker 1He dropped it, you, he dropped the weapon.
Speaker 2How many times did they comply the first time? You tell them Not many. This is my suspect.
Speaker 1That's getting pain electrocuted by 10,000 volts.
Speaker 2So don't handcuff him and leave him on the patio or the porch or the balcony.
Speaker 1I didn't say where's that? We're on the beach.
Speaker 2He's not on the beach, why not In public? Public no.
Speaker 1He might have been drunk In a bar.
Speaker 2In a bar. I love you.
Speaker 1I love you most.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I'm right.
Speaker 1You want to take us out?
Speaker 2No, I'm going to let you, I'm going to allow you.
Speaker 1No, go ahead. How's your friend, by the way? Which one Allow? Oh good, yeah, haven't heard from her.
Speaker 2I have oh really Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1Oh, that's nice. So again kudos to what's your name, lisa.
Speaker 2So again kudos to Lisa what's your name?
Speaker 1Leslie, Leslie Lisa.
Speaker 2Rock star Lisa Leslie.
Speaker 1Lisa Leslie I'm horrible with names.
Speaker 2Badass girl Like an inspiration to women and girls everywhere.
Speaker 1Yes, and you've already had her on.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1I would love to have her on.
Speaker 2I hope I can have her on. I would love to have her on. You know who else? You actually got me a little excited today because I'm keeping it clean. Oh gee, thanks Because you mentioned the name Voss. Wow, I would love to get the FBI negotiating mastermind, chris Voss, on the show.
Speaker 1Would he get you a little excited?
Speaker 2Not that way. Not that way, no, not at all.
Speaker 1You're hilarious.
Speaker 2No, You're pretty quiet. I'm just waiting on you to take us out.
Speaker 1No, no no Chris Voss, no James Spader.
Speaker 2No, I wouldn't do anything with any of them because I have you. Hmm, now what?
Speaker 1Thank y'all.
Speaker 2Not even Jason Statham.
Speaker 1For listening to a contagious smile, unstoppable. Y'all comment who's right, who's wrong.
Speaker 2You did say you weren't going to take us out. Look what you're doing. Everybody loves our banter. They think it's awesome.
Speaker 1No, they love to hear you.
Speaker 2No, they love to hear us. Our numbers are so much higher when you actually do a show with me. You've already seen this for yourself.
Speaker 1That was pretty short. I don't know I you actually do a show with me. You've already seen this for yourself.
Speaker 2Well, that was pretty short, it was probably what 20 minutes?
Speaker 1I don't know. I wasn't watching the time. That was watching your eyes, your green eyes, red hair, unstoppable with Victoria and Michael this episode has now been concluded. Thank y'all. We'll see y'all again. Y'all go to our website.
