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Courage and Strain: Honoring Officers and Tackling Family Issues

August 26, 2024 Victora Cuore; A Contagious Smile, Who Kicked First, Domestic Violence Survivor, Advocate, Motivational Coach, Special Needs, Abuse Support, Life Skill Classes, Special Needs Social Groups

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Have you ever wondered how much media portrayal shapes our perception of political figures? Join us on this impactful episode of Unstoppable as we dissect the razor-tight race between Harris and Trump, alongside my incredible soulmate, Bradneck Husband. We’re raising critical issues about media insensitivity, particularly towards Waltz's son with special needs, and the mounting financial pressures from school supplies to everyday essentials. Our heartfelt tribute to the brave officers who’ve made the ultimate sacrifice underscores the emotional and physical toll of law enforcement. Bradneck Husband shares his invaluable perspective from over 13 years in the field, shedding light on the camaraderie and unseen challenges officers face daily.

What happens when law enforcement officers encounter individuals with mental challenges or special needs? We examine the urgent necessity for more specialized training and professional aid to prevent unnecessary escalation. This conversation extends to the dire need for better in-service training, particularly in handling domestic violence cases. We challenge the status quo by debating whether senior staff should periodically patrol the streets to stay grounded with real-time challenges. Through continuous, hands-on training, we advocate for a system that better equips officers to handle the complexities of their job.
 
Ever felt like the “black sheep” in your family? Our discussion takes a personal turn as we explore the impacts of family dynamics on mental health, inspired by my journey and my books "Who Keep First" and the forthcoming "Knock Knock Who's There." Celebrating the budding talent of young poet Faith, we also introduce our exciting collaboration with Dana on "Nard Nard. Who's There? Help Me, I'm Gasping for Air," tackling the nuanced world of narcissistic family dynamics. Don’t miss our announcement about an intimate Zoom event designed for survivors and thrivers of narcissistic abuse. Join us for an episode that promises to enlighten, challenge, and inspire.

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Speaker 1:

Good evening y'all and welcome to another episode. You said y'all Seriously yes Of Unstoppable. Obviously, you have my incredibly wonderful soulmate Bradneck Husband, who has already jumped on in here Howdy y'all. I did say y'all, you did Wow, you only say youse guys, no, youse guys. No, why'all you did.

Speaker 2:

Wow, you want me to say youse guys, no, youse guys no. Why?

Speaker 1:

Because we have to represent.

Speaker 2:

No, right yeah, them New Yorkers Watch it. What Watch it?

Speaker 1:

Watch what? Because I'm like half Yankee.

Speaker 2:

You are a Yankee.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm half. Yankee.

Speaker 2:

And now you're on a redneck. I'm a little Yankee up in there somewhere. I can't fall.

Speaker 1:

So there's a lot going on this week, Not just with us, but in general. If you've been watching the news, I know you don't do politics and I don't either. I just want to know what's going on in our country. But they are deadlocked neck and neck with harris and trump, like it is insane right and it's seriously like.

Speaker 1:

All I ever see her do is dance or attempt, and that's all I've ever seen her videos. She will not take questions from the media. How do you expect to stand and represent this country as commander in chief and you don't even take questions from the media? How do you do that? And it would be my same question if Trump did it. But Trump is total opposite of that and you know. Here's the thing. A lot of people have been making fun of Waltz's son, because Waltz's son was extremely outgoing and excited when his dad came out on the podium with harris and, like a lot of people mocked it. But what they don't know is that his son has special needs. Waltz's son has special needs and after finding that out, people still mocked it, which makes me just I angry. Like it's not okay, I don't know everything about his son, it doesn't matter. The point is is that you don't target someone's child? I don't care how old they are. I mean, that's not, that's not all right. I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

Wow, and then we have been, and then there's Trump getting out doing a meet and greet With that young man that came 40 hours away, you know.

Speaker 1:

He just wanted to have a look at him. He didn't expect to have interaction with him, but nobody shows that.

Speaker 2:

There's a big difference.

Speaker 1:

Nobody shows that Just look at the cost of reporting.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, it doesn't say reporting. Oh, there it is. They moved it. They moved it my apologies y'all for the brief intermission.

Speaker 1:

But look at the cost of gas, look at the cost of groceries. I mean everything is just outrageous. I mean, even people were complaining about how hard it was for people to pay for back to school necessities because everything is so expensive. It's just crazy. Abby is gonna be so mad at you that you're having another one of her sprites yeah, but guys are gonna like the sound.

Speaker 2:

It's a sprite not even a fear.

Speaker 1:

Let the imagination run wild it's a sprite and if you have been following news, you know and and I again want to like talk about this for a minute there has been so many officers that have been taken from us too early and georgia lost another one to domestic violence, responded to a call and lost his life, and it is heartbreaking. I mean, that is the most dangerous call for a police officer to respond to. And one thing that I wish they would show it everybody says if it bleeds, it leads. They don't show, you know, like the camaraderie of the, like the fire department and the police department, how they they, you know, stand on the bridges and the emergency lanes and they have all of their lights on and they're showing respect and for the fallen officer and you.

Speaker 1:

You see on these videos these cute, cute little tiny boys, like you know, standing there waiting on the procession to go by, and then they salute and the comraderies. Nobody looks at those individuals and says, oh, there's caucasian, there's african-american, there's lat, there's Caucasian, there's African-American, there's Latino, there's whatever. It's. All people united together out of respect, right? So I don't see why we can't do more of that, but it shouldn't cost the life of someone in public service to bring that out of people. My husband is just not speaking in these long silences.

Speaker 2:

Was that false? For me to interject something? Yes, no, give me the microphone. So y'all know I was in law enforcement for 13 and a half years.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you can go out there and become a police officer and be full of piss and vinegar and want to chase bad guys running Mach 1 down the highway with your lights and sirens going. Anywho, you'll come to a point where, once you get that out of your system, it just becomes droll. There's no more excitement, okay, and then you start becoming complacent. Okay, every traffic stop is not. Uh, hey, they can murder me, you know, it's just. Oh, here's another stat, here's another ticket. You know this, y'all who ran a red light, this they. You know I staked out a four-way stop sign and they're going to get another ticket. You know I'm going to be king of tickets today. Well, you become complacent and and I wish these officers wouldn't I did, you know. But, um, you know, I, I, I had to get out of it. I carried five knives on me and four guns and you know, I even put a handcuff key up under my watch. I remember that Because one of our officers made a traffic stop and the driver of the vehicle whooped his butt, handcuffed him and threw him in the back in the trunk of his police unit, got in the police unit and drove to the next county where they found the officer.

Speaker 2:

So you can become complacent and I really wish officers would be more cognitive of their surrounding. You know and not just think you know and not just think you know this is just another traffic stop. You know this could be life or death. So my hat goes out to the officers. Y'all are doing a bang up job. I wish the public didn't give you such hard time. I wish the brass could get off your ass because, man, we got it from, let's say, sometimes three sides, if not two. You got it from brass, the citizens, john Q Povitt, and then you get it from home life because you know our home life suffered, our marriages suffered. You know, if we didn't have that supporting someone in our life that understood, then they suffered A lot of times. The kids pay the price for it. A lot of divorce rate and police officers. Am I right? I'm right.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to say anything I know I'm right.

Speaker 2:

It's like the third time in my life I've been right.

Speaker 1:

The third time in your life.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Do you believe that officers should have more in-service training than what's required?

Speaker 2:

In-service. Yes, Especially when it comes to, like, special needs, mentally handicapped, mentally challenged, whatever terminology, handicap, mentally challenged, whatever terminology you can't just approach a subject and you'll see cues from that subject. Suspect or victim, whomever, You'll see cues and you know we see it all the time on. Tiktok YouTube and just the media.

Speaker 1:

Well, hey.

Speaker 2:

Rusty come to visit us, buddy, One of our dogs. Rusty, all right and you know. Rusty, all right and you know you have to approach these. You, of all people, know you have to approach these individuals differently than you can a regular Joey Bag of Donuts. You can't just yell at them and tell them to do a command and then instantly tell them to do another command and then the other officers backing you up telling him to do another command and then the other officers back in europe's telling him do right, it's way too much for some individuals.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying all, but some and there's too many chiefs in the kitchen, too many cooks in the kitchen. So what do you do when you have somebody ordering multiple that process and they can't follow it? And then you have these officers that, and no fault of their own, have not been trained, and then they immediately take the level up. You're supposed to de-escalate right but then you have somebody who can't understand and can't convey that they do.

Speaker 1:

They don't understand, and then the officer is you know, got that well going tunnel vision and thinks he's non-compliant, and then it just gets out of control. And then you know, a lot of times these kids like when you have a seizure you have so much strength. People don't realize the strength that somebody can have. We used to call them cock strong and it's not their fault If you're having a seizure, that's not their fault. You do realize that Stucco, my Stucco, is the best because he's still well-behaved by my mom.

Speaker 2:

So y'all be advised that we're not bashing cops, not at all? Not at all. We just wish that there were more training. There should be more trained professionals who deal with either the mentally challenged, handicapped or special needs directly. That can advise you know, officers, what to look for, right, because?

Speaker 1:

the last thing I knew when I was doing any kind of teaching down there at the academy was in-service training really. And there's no other way for me to say this. It's kind of a joke on the hours that are required. You have to do your first day cpr. Now there's the aed training in it. You have to qualify with your weapon, but then there's like only a few other hours you need to reach your requirements in here and I'm sorry, I think they need to have you know.

Speaker 1:

Serious, I mean, it could be life or death situation, but I also I truly believe that there should be all new laws and everything else on the whole domestic violence thing, because there's just, I mean, more hate to term victims but victims turning survivors are incarcerated than the abuser themselves, and that is is not okay. Like I don't understand how anyone can see that and say, well, that makes sense, you know. I mean, how do you see someone with defense wounds and then turn around and say, well, take it in, you know you're going to jail, and then you leave this sick son of a bitch with the children Right know that they're going to get hurt, you know that something is going to happen and you have no choice.

Speaker 1:

So then what happens to the kids? I mean? These aren't things that are being thought out and really need to have better training on, because it's not the kids' fault.

Speaker 2:

So there were some times in the county that I worked in that I could not determine right and there was a law that stated that it was called an affray that both suspects and their victims were fighting. Then I could arrest both of them, right, and then you know the they had to. You know the evidence would have to be brought out later. Yes, so I've done that, I've been there you know.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know officers have to make split-second decisions and sometimes it's tough. You know, we don't know everything, guys. The hall to me was boring, it was just dry and I can't remember everything you know so. And guys, y'all are dealing with some young kids out there these days. You know 20 year olds out there. That's the law. You know what they say goes and you know they can put the handcuffs on you.

Speaker 1:

They tell you so well, here's a question I have for you. I've got to stop staring at that light behind you. Here's a question I have for you. Do you believe senior staff should be required to ride on the streets every so often instead of, like a senior senior staff, just sitting in the desk? Behind the desk because they're making ultimate decisions and they're making calls. Do you believe that they should be out on the street once a week, once a month? Whatever the case may be is to get that firsthand knowledge.

Speaker 2:

Now in my department I was at, our lieutenant would patrol out there with us and he would patrol and do like a lot of business checks and find open doors and call, call it in and have us respond. You know, no, you're, you're senior, you you put in your time you deserve a little kickback, right as far as you know. Hey, I need to take it easy. You know I've got a lot of paperwork to do.

Speaker 2:

I've got my patrol officers to look out for I'm okay with that, but now the lieutenant can respond wherever the officer's responding.

Speaker 1:

You're talking major Go higher Senior staff.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Maybe they can ride around with the lieutenant and respond to the same cause once the officer arrives on scene.

Speaker 1:

Right, we're talking about someone who works daytime, day shift.

Speaker 2:

No, they're going to lose focus of the real thing. Doesn't even know the real time Right. Should they be required to get in there and actually work the streets sure like an in-service training type yes you've got to put in, uh, let's see you do uh, 12, 8 to 12 hour shifts, you know. So put in 48 hours a year or whatever, because, like, even post-training, it's still training and then when you're out and you're out on the street, it's totally different.

Speaker 1:

Even when you post-training, it's still training. And then when you're out and you're out on the street. It's totally different. Even when you go through hell week, it's still not the same as when you're out there and you're by yourself you don't have your f2. You don't have anybody else out there right away, at that very second with you. What was hell week? Hell week was like where you had to do vehicular pullovers.

Speaker 2:

You had to make sure that you could handle whatever scenario you went to, you had to respond to like a room and then, like we would be standing in there and you'd have to de-escalate the situation you would know what you were walking into clear facility.

Speaker 1:

Then there's the vehicular pullovers that you had to respond in a unit and do a proper stop, proper search a woman, blah, blah. Why are you looking at me? You never did any this, you had to it wasn't. It wasn't a week it was done after eva well night times work this was.

Speaker 1:

This was my entire six months yeah, but then you have people who just come into the department in that higher position, who didn't start and just like, walked in with you, know high rank, but didn't ever ride a patrol car. And that's why I'm just curious, you know, when you see these, these individuals that have passed away and they're making these split decisions and they're leaving their family behind, there's never going to be enough training, in my opinion, because every call you go on is going to be different, every call, every time you approach a a vehicle.

Speaker 1:

A hundred scenarios could play out.

Speaker 2:

You know, you don't know which one that's going to be right, you know, are you going to get to go home to your family tonight.

Speaker 1:

That's the ultimate goal. You have starting shift, but you don't know when you approach a vehicle or when you go to a call, is it going to be? I mean, I will never forget how you went to a disturbance call and you had no idea what you were walking into and it ended up being a very elderly person who was getting it on with his girlfriend, and that was hilarious.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think that was a start of Ivor.

Speaker 1:

That was hilarious. And you I remember you said I need to put my eyes on your girlfriend and make sure she's okay. We've had some complaints that there was some screaming going on and you and I were both wondering is this going to be like some 20-year-old very hot, attractive woman, or is this going to be you? Know your age-appropriate 75-plus-year-old woman, you know, with the furniture disease and her chest things into her drawers. And she did because this guy. Oh, when you open the door, this guy was naked at the door the day he was born.

Speaker 1:

You know, you never know what the call's gonna be. I mean, that was just a fun one, because you know you had to maintain your composure and professionalism and straight face, which I don't know how you of all people did, because that's just not like you, but there's just not enough training and people do get complacent and they get in their little honey holes and whatever the case may be, and they why, are you making this face? I'm just listening, reminiscing.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm listening to you.

Speaker 1:

But am I right or wrong?

Speaker 2:

You're right.

Speaker 1:

And then exactly, and so then you know, I just want to look out for the welfare. You know these people go into it and it's a calling and they want to help and they want to. You know better their communities, and God bless each and every one of them and their spouses and families, for you know, having to go through this, I mean I wouldn't want you back on the street this time going on. What's going on in the world?

Speaker 2:

No, but we absolutely need law enforcement out there.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, absolutely. But what do you think? You're just pulling somebody over because their taillights out. You know you end up getting shot or run over or whatever. I mean you don't think, when you're approaching a vehicle because their taillights out, that you know it's going to be the last time you get out of that slot car and it's scary. This has become a very scary place to be in today's time. It's just getting way out of control.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so we're waiting on Victoria's book, her prequel to her first book, to be finalized in the review stage.

Speaker 1:

It's taking forever, it's taking forever. My husband gave me such a round of crap because Wednesday night I said that's it and I had been working diligently on this and I couldn't get it to configure appropriately, and so I went into our room and I was like that's it, I'm just done.

Speaker 2:

I can't do it, you know it's not going to work.

Speaker 1:

And we were laying there and then it was like I don't know 11 or 12. And you said you went back to work, aren't you? And I said, yep, I had a little sign that showed me I needed to get my, took us up and go back and try and like three in the morning. I got it done and now it's still holding in review and it's like I'm like a little kid.

Speaker 1:

Um, I can do a workbook in a day, like I can create one, build one, design one in a day. This has been really hard for me because this this was this book was a big one. Like who came first was the memoir that I worked on when faith was in a medical induced coma about surviving domestic violence, and I never went back and edited it and I even put that in the beginning of the book. Please forgive any grammatical imperfections, as this was never meant to be released.

Speaker 1:

It was meant to be a journal and this has so many pictures and and emails and text messages and stuff in it that you couldn't get it to align the way I would like it to have been. So professionally the look of it and internally is not up to my standard. It's not up to par, so I apologize in advance, but there's no way, because of what it's called the bleeding of the pages, that you could get it in there in an appropriate way where you could still be able to read them and not make it look like perfect.

Speaker 1:

It just wasn't going to happen it wasn't so hopefully the people who read it read it and understand it for what it is and not address the imperfection of the layout with it.

Speaker 2:

And for those who are going to read it. I'm going to assume that this is a topic of interest or they are possibly a survivor.

Speaker 1:

Would you?

Speaker 2:

encourage these readers, these survivors, to actually write their own story.

Speaker 1:

Million percent and I would love to interview them and to try to self-publish, absolutely, absolutely, because and you know this too the black sheep is the one that they use to their benefit the most, and then they're also like the ones that they exclude and try to, you know, put the blame on everything. A narcissist cannot take accountability for their actions, just cannot do it they won't do it.

Speaker 1:

They're not going to do it. It doesn't matter what it is they're going to play, explain. Unless it's an accomplishment, they will not own up to it. And what's ironic is I've had the pleasure of working with some world-renowned therapists and some amazing, amazing ladies, and when I've had the chance to do this, they all said one of them said something very, um, powerful that really hit home with me, and this is the first time I've said it to anyone, or even to you, is I asked her.

Speaker 1:

You know, do you believe that I'm doing? The right to put this out, to put this book out, and I said I am not this person that can hurt anybody, I care for ever. It's just not who I am and she's.

Speaker 1:

That's why you're needing to do this because you have the strength within you after everything you've been through, that somebody who's just going through it and feels lost and isolated and alone and maybe even suicidal, because they feel like no one gets it, no one understands where they are, can have you as their best friend. And I was like, oh wow, like I've never thought of it that way, it's never been even a concept I've considered. But this is a world renowned doctor who teaches a program and her program is the only one taught in the world with what she does um, she's pretty expensive, right uh?

Speaker 1:

yeah, but she is the nicest lady and when she was like you're going, if you're going through this alone and you literally feel like you've got nobody in the corner, and then you have at your disposal this book that not just tells your story but proves your story, like there's no ifs, ands or buts in this. It's like having your own Bible in a way, because it's a Bible for an abuse survivor, because they have you at their hands and they have you literally as a best friend in the book and I just felt like, okay, now I know I've got to do it. You know, and that's important because I I went through a lot of this there's a part in the book where I actually asked my my bio mom if she would help me with my um, who kicked first in regards to.

Speaker 1:

I was being interviewed on television and I wanted to know which part I wanted to talk about because I was very uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

The book just came out, like literally just came out, and so I was very uncomfortable about, you know, being in front of a camera. At that point they did help me alter my appearance for the camera. I just wanted to be ready and I thought, you know, maybe she'd come up and help. And she was like no, and I said you know, this is really hard. I really, you know, like for you to come up and help.

Speaker 1:

No, and this was just common you know, and that's just exactly what it was and you know I didn't put in the book what my bio parents did for a living. I didn't put in the book any of what they stood for or, you know, represented, did whatever you want to call it which, when I talked to this renowned doctor, she was like I think you should, but it would really blow the top off this whole thing and I said I just don't want any way for people to realize who they are. That's why their faces are you?

Speaker 1:

know redacted um no names that could make someone realize who they are. But the fact is is that they expect people now I'm talking about in general people expect the black sheet to stay quiet. They actually try to make you seem like you are unstable because you make so many mistakes. You do so many things wrong like if you guys tune into the series that dana and I are doing.

Speaker 1:

you know, she went through it as well, and her bio parent I mean her bio mom and stepdad really just made her out to be a lunatic. And she's not. She's a brilliant woman and she went through a hard time reading a book, gasping for. Air. It's one of my top 10 favorites. She is amazing and she has her prequel coming out in October. But they did everything they could to make her the bad one because they wouldn't hold accountability and that was just mind blowing to her. And then you know what?

Speaker 1:

The black sheep is the only one who comes forth and never tells the truth because they feel like that's all they have, because that's the only way they can remain sane is by continually reminding them that we didn't do this. We didn't do what we're being blamed for Right, and that's what makes it so challenging, and that's why a lot of people just kind of go into a depression or go into substance abuse or alcoholism or you know a million different other things that they could get into. So we're hoping that we can bring light to this really untalked about something.

Speaker 2:

And the second book is called what?

Speaker 1:

You know I put it out there in some of the groups that I'm in and I can't tell you how many people thought it was brilliant. The title is Knock Knock who's there, instead of knock knock, because you think about it. When a stranger or someone you just quote unquote family friend goes to the front door of the house, they knock on the door and the outside looks nice or whatever, and they have no idea what's going on behind that door and then when you open the door, you don't know what you're going to get.

Speaker 1:

Like, are you going to get that person who cares?

Speaker 1:

more about what a stranger thinks and cares that you think know that they have all this flop and materialistic garbage or are you going to get that monster that only the internal family gets and 99.999 percent of the time you don't get that monster. You get that, that wonderful person with that crazy mask on, and so not not. Who's there? And I started putting the uh information that the book is coming out soon and I bet you I've had several hundred people honestly that have come out and said I freaking love the idea of this title, like it needs to be talked about and you know, good for you for doing that.

Speaker 1:

And that's not why I did it. I didn't do it for the good for you. I did it because if it helps one person, then it's worth it.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. Y'all be sure to go on Amazon and get her first book, who Keep First, by Victoria Curie, and then look for the second one. Hopefully this week it'll be finalized. Nart, nart, who's there?

Speaker 2:

And also, don't forget about our little Faith. Check out her books. I believe she's up to five and she is continually inspired by her mom, who is Awesome Sauce, a sexy redheaded vixen, a sexy redheaded vixen, whatever. To continue her adventure into writing more books and poems, she's branched out into the poem. She writes also poems, y'all they're beautiful, and Mom here is going to publish them at some point.

Speaker 1:

She wrote two for the Narth Narth book. You're about to knock over that one Thank you. She has written two columns for this book and they're amazing. I mean, when she read the one that she wrote for me and the little booger did it in five minutes, like five minutes, and she's like here and I was like oh, thanks for putting any thought into it.

Speaker 1:

And she's like here and I was, and I was like, oh, thanks for putting any thought into it. She's like, no, I'm done. And then I I was in the drive-thru when she did it brought it to her and I was like, and then like can I help you?

Speaker 1:

I'm like just a minute please, you know, and I'm like, oh, you know, like I'm reading it and it is so good. It is so good. You know, she writes powerfully, but my sweet little Faith loves to text me at like two in the morning while she's in bed and say I just wrote another poem, a poem mom, will you tell me what you think of it?

Speaker 1:

She didn't even know. Well, she knows I'm up again, I'm asleep, but she sends this to me and then she'll or she'll text me and say what really rhymes with blank. Like she will give me a word. I need to know what rhymes with this. And it's like 145 in the morning or whatever, and I'm like sleep and she's like that's not what I asked and I'm like how about? She's like I have another poem can I send it to you?

Speaker 2:

and I said is it called meeting the?

Speaker 1:

inside of my eyelids. Oh, very funny. Like it's it, I never want to stop her from her creativity. It's amazing and beautiful as she is, and I really think her poems are going to help a lot because you can resonate with them. I mean the fact that she's writing like she does is amazing.

Speaker 2:

I mean absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1:

This kid is every day. She's 18, so she pitched in.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, what? What Is she 18? Yes, she can legally move out.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

What's wrong with your voice?

Speaker 1:

I don't rightly know, sir, but I can tell you right now that that statement is not true. She doesn't want to move out, she wants to stay.

Speaker 2:

You're an awesome mom, okay.

Speaker 1:

Because she knows she's loved unconditionally, she's safe and she's happy and this is like so important for her. She needs that.

Speaker 2:

So you mentioned Dana and you mentioned a series that you are doing. What's it called?

Speaker 1:

It's a long title, but it's Nard Nard. Who's there? Help Me, I'm Gasping for Air which is the collaboration of the. Nard Nard coming out and her first book.

Speaker 2:

Gasping for Air.

Speaker 1:

And I'm telling you what. I bet you I don't get a lot of time to read, but that book goes with me when Faith is in the hospital and I bet you I've read it at least three or four times and every time I read it I find out new things. I see new things in the book and it is so good. And no, she didn't take me to say that she is just. I mean, she's a wonderful person and it's getting two different perspectives on things, on how things are. So in the series we have dissected the narcissistic, dysfunctional family and, like we've done an episode on a narcissistic parent, the golden child, the black sheep narcissistic grandparent the perception of society to a narcissist.

Speaker 1:

We're doing one episode per topic and it is amazing. She's amazing, I'm so honored. She's co-hosting this and actually everybody mark your calendar honor. She's co-hosting this and actually everybody mark your calendar. If you go to victoria cure's author page on facebook, you will see that we are actually doing an intimate setting on the 31st, which I think now I made a big uh-oh because that's labor day weekend, um where we are going to have you have the opportunity to come and speak with Dana and I ask questions.

Speaker 1:

It's a forum for narcissistic recovery and survivors and thrivers and we would love to see you. It's $5 for the ticket which covers the ticket fees and entrance into the Zoom with all of us and we are, in turn. I'm giving promo codes to all of our workbooks where you get 50 off, and it's not one book. So if you go in there and you see that you like four, five, six, twenty other plus workbooks that are in there, you get 50 of all of that off, not just that so you get your five dollars back hands down without question.

Speaker 1:

So we'd absolutely love to have as many of you guys go. We only have very limited seating available, so go over to Victoria Carey author page on Facebook and follow share like, give it to your friends and support, and we are all here together to help one another to lift each other up.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, that's great. So anything else in closing You're done already. I'm done already.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

Been working my butt off all day.

Speaker 1:

You've been playing video games for like four and a half hours.

Speaker 2:

That was sporadically Negatory. We watched movies on the couch.

Speaker 1:

No, we did not. You and Faith did. I've been working.

Speaker 2:

We cut the grass. That took eight minutes. We picked up Denden.

Speaker 1:

Did you cut the bushes?

Speaker 2:

No, but I sprayed the house. Outside or inside.

Speaker 1:

Inside. Did you actually use a spray? Yes, huh, uh-huh, but I guarantee you we didn't wash the dogs.

Speaker 2:

No, I did not wash the dogs.

Speaker 1:

They get washed, sometimes Washed. That sounds Yankee-ish.

Speaker 2:

Washed, washed.

Speaker 1:

Washed, washed. You need to wash the dog Washed and you usually say dog, it's so cute. I want to see if I can get him to do it when I talk like this.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Come on, it's so cute Please.

Speaker 2:

Please Thank y'all for listening to Unstoppable with. Victoria, kieran Kimmy and myself, michael, y'all continue to follow and share, please share.

Speaker 1:

I'm pouting.

Speaker 2:

This woman. I tell you what I love her to pieces. Then piece yourself together and say I wish I could give you an arm. I give you my arm.

Speaker 1:

I want your arm why?

Speaker 2:

Because it's hairy I already have your hand. Say goodnight, goodnight.

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