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Victora Cuore; A Contagious Smile, Who Kicked First, Domestic Violence Survivor, Advocate, Motivational Coach, Special Needs, Abuse Support, Life Skill Classes, Special Needs Social Groups Season 2

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The pollen count is high and so are the emotions in this raw, unfiltered conversation between Victoria and Michael. Between sneezes and watery eyes, they dive into the grueling realities of advocacy work—the sleepless nights, endless paperwork, and emotional toll that comes with fighting for those who cannot fight for themselves.

Victoria opens up about a new family she's working with, revealing the complex dynamics involved in cases with multiple children and parents. Michael courageously shares his personal experience as a male survivor of domestic abuse, shedding light on the silent suffering many men endure when society tells them to "take it like a man." His powerful testimony offers hope to other men trapped in abusive relationships, affirming that escape and healing are possible.

The conversation shifts to frustrations with healthcare systems that make patients wait months for necessary surgeries while jumping through bureaucratic hoops. But the most passionate moments come when Victoria fiercely defends her daughter against narcissistic family members who show love only when it benefits them. Her maternal protectiveness ignites as she recounts how these individuals have repeatedly disappointed her daughter despite her unwavering love and desire for genuine connection.

A beautiful highlight emerges when Victoria shares a touching poem written by her daughter—a testament to resilience despite experiencing neglect and pain. This heart-to-heart reminds us that while we cannot choose our biological family, we can create supportive environments with people who truly value us. Listeners struggling with toxic relationships will find validation and encouragement in this authentically human episode about standing up for what's right, even when it's difficult.

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Speaker 1:

how do y'all welcome to another episode of a contagious smile unstoppable, with the lovely and sexy victoria, whom doesn't think she's sexy, and I say you're wrong woman, whatever, because you are okay, and michael that guy. So y'all have to forgive us. We've had a lot of pollen here where we're at, and even though we had some good rainstorms come through, we're still kind of stuffy. Our eyes are watering, our throat's itchy, so we might not sound 100% Right now. My wife's eyes are red and puffy. One lack of sleep because she works 32 hours a day, and two all this dang pollen, not to mention one of our golden retrievers scratched her eye.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

It was yours, specifically mine so.

Speaker 2:

Your computer background is the Matrix.

Speaker 1:

Yes, because I like the matrix. Um kiana, if you want to come on our show, please, uh, reach out to us, have your people, get with our people, and you know we'll get you on the show, buddy I'll show, I'll share my cameo space with him I would like it like the other day.

Speaker 1:

Y'allall, she, the wife. We're sitting at the dinner table and she gets a freaking video call or chat or whatever from none other than Lou Diamond Phillips. Like, are you freaking, kidding me? Lou Diamond Phillips calls my wife. Okay, I'm not jelly in the slightest.

Speaker 2:

What if it was James Spader?

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, that's all you.

Speaker 2:

What if it was Jason Statham?

Speaker 1:

Then hooray.

Speaker 2:

Really Hooray, hooray. So somehow or another, something new is I was asked by Facebook to have a private channel Sorry, a public channel and I could send out all sorts of new things and what's going on, and yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. And yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. And I looked at like who else has channels and it was like um, the actor from chicago pd who plays hank boyd and if he not that he would listen to this. But he is so awesome in this role and he was also in gi jane. He played demi moore's boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

But, just as I always say, james spader was made for Raymond Reddington. This gentleman, his name is Jason. He is made for Hank Voight. He's fabulous in his role, so he has his own channel. And then all of a sudden, like Facebook asked if I wanted to do it or I would do it. So I'm just waiting on these people to wake up and say who is this woman and why. I had someone say to me yesterday we read your article about you in the magazine where you were in the main magazine for we, and it was fascinating and I was like shh, don't tell anybody.

Speaker 1:

They actually came up and said and I was just like.

Speaker 2:

Interesting. And they said you don't act like you have any fame on you or about you at all and I was like I don't.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I do, and we're still trying to get her book into production. Hopefully somebody will pick it up and make a movie out of it.

Speaker 2:

Who kicked first it?

Speaker 1:

would be a horror story To shed light on these monsters, these abusers that are out there and what you know at the time the victims, the survivors, what they go through.

Speaker 2:

I don't think some people understand what advocates go through Like and I'm trying to hold back a sneeze, hold on, so you take for a second. I'm so sorry, warn yourself, turn down your volume if I start sneezing. So I mean advocates, like I got to sneeze, you're going to have to talk. It's like right there.

Speaker 1:

As an an advocate. My wife puts in heart and soul into these cases. Uh, for the kids. You know that that's the the main. I'm gonna kind of cover the mic here oh, it's right there look at the light, uh. So she puts in just gobs amount of hours and the research and then rewriting stuff and then you know making presentations, going for the courts, getting records pulled, getting police reports, talking to the DFAX and the officers, whomever else is involved. So it's a lot on these advocates and kudos to y'all.

Speaker 2:

If you're advocating for, uh, special needs or children or domestic violence survivors, you know my wife feels your pain well, you came in here the other night at like what time was it four in the morning, and he walks in and he says are you freaking, kidding me? You haven't been asleep, have you? I was in here working and he was like are you freaking, kidding me?

Speaker 1:

me, I'll go to. I go to sleep on my dime at eight at night.

Speaker 2:

Drop of a dime eight at night he'll go to. He go to sleep on my dime At eight at night.

Speaker 1:

Drop of a dime Eight at night.

Speaker 2:

He goes to sleep sooner than grandfathers and great-grandfathers. Like he goes to bed. I ate dinner. I'm full. I don't even think he finishes the sentence. Hey, that actually made me feel a little bit better, sorry.

Speaker 1:

A hock-a-loogie now. No A, what A?

Speaker 2:

hock-to, that's if you're Jewish. What is Hock a what?

Speaker 1:

No Hock-a-loogie.

Speaker 2:

Hock-a-loogie what it sounds like an island in Hawaii. Like, come on, I want to lay a. Like what? That's not an island, it is on Grumpy Old Men. The old guy says, hey, want to come have a pokey? You want to come have a pokey, you want to have a, you know, licky diggy. That's where licky diggy came from. You serious, yes, I love grumpy old man. That's where it came from was licky diggy. You know all about licky diggy, keep it pg. And that is what the great grandpa said. He says come on, you want to licky diggy. You want, you want to go to the island of. You want to lay up? Come on, I want to lay up he's. I love them, they were awesome. We don't have like actors like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau anymore. We don't have that like a stoic, you know, seasoned you got Jack Burns who.

Speaker 1:

Jack Burns from the Falkers. Come on now. You ever seen the meet the Falkers? I tried to now. You ever seen Meet the Falkers?

Speaker 2:

I tried to make it through the whole thing but if I can't get my movie made and you have like Streisand and what's his name on it. Streisand was the mom, the Falker mom.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then the daughter was Martha, yeah, yeah. And then you had the dad, who I always confuse pacino and deniro. I always I don't know why yes, but we didn't like walter mathau and jack lemon. Jack lemon stayed beside whichever, I don't remember who was who, but they stayed beside each other all the time when they were sick and they were like the best of friends. And and then you have, like Sean Connery. There are not actors like that anymore. They're just not, and it's sad. I mean, who is rising into those roles? Like you know, I saw a picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger the other day and almost fell over. I said, oh, is he playing Santa? No, that's him. He's almost fell over. I said, oh, is he playing santa? No, that's him. He's in his late 70s or whatever now. And I'll be back. Look like he was hoeing. You know, like I thought, oh, he's playing a santa. And no, that was him being him. You know, he just got seriously aged.

Speaker 1:

He's the same age as sly I bet sylvester's had a lot of work done.

Speaker 2:

Sylvester, you know, has paralysis in his lip and him and Arnold had shoulder surgery the same day, the same time, and I'm trying to think. But he's still making kick-ass movies. Sly still does, but that's like sly and arnold are playing roles at the age that jack lemon and walter mathau did and they're nowhere. I mean I like sylvester stallone, I tolerate arnold schwarzenegger, but like they're not jack lemon and walter mathau, they're not. You know, they're not betty white. We do not have a betty white anymore. You can't, I can't even come up with someone who's relatively close to a betty white. Nobody, I mean they're just not. She was a legend in her own, I mean just a class act. Okay, I'm sure nobody wants to listen to us talk about hollywood yeah.

Speaker 1:

so those of y'all who have been waiting on the podcast powerhouse courses that my wife and so Dylan do work on, we found an era that I did. I own my mistakes and we are we. She is going back and correcting them and it's taken a lot of man, woman, hours, okay. So please be patient. If you look for those courses, classes coming out, and let me tell you from what I saw, she has added probably 20, something more since the last time I went through them. I don't know, am I wrong?

Speaker 2:

no, there's four collections and you have a collection for people that, if you want to talk about them we have one is just for powerhouse podcast and social media growth, where it tells you and teaches you all the ins and outs, because we have no employees, like it's all in-house, it's done in this office and the classes teach that. And my husband, of course, does not go eye to eye with me on the fact that I have them priced so low, because there are classes I've seen classes out there that are like several thousand dollars and ours are not. I think we don't buy. I don't want to misquote, but I mean none of our classes are anywhere near even a hundred dollars. Like they're not priced that high at all. Most of them are under 50. I think almost all of them are.

Speaker 2:

And then we have the uh safe haven phoenix center, where it's for survivors of any type of abuse and how to get or continue on your road of healing and how to help rebuild that beautiful inner light from within. And so that is that collection. And then we have Limitless Recovery Tribe, which is for anyone in any type of recovery, and what people don't realize is that you're probably in recovery and don't even realize it, like you and I are both in recovery from abuse. You know whether it's narcissistic recovery, narcissistic abuse recovery, domestic violence recovery. You know it could be a slew of different things. You know alcoholism there's courses in there for people who have lost loved ones by suicide or lost by addiction. You know recovering from the death of a loved one there. There's a whole bunch of things in there that really help you, uh, get back up and dust yourself off, if you will, and help you in this road. And then my my baby project my baby baby project because it's stucco, is the Stucco Squad and I love it because I wish I write these courses, thinking this is something I want to do.

Speaker 2:

When I was little Like, I wish I had these fun things to do. When I was little, like last night I did life skills for tween queens and then life skills for tween boys, who you have, the tween queens and then you have the king's court, which I think are adorable, and each of them have their own chat room so you can go in there and make friends and you can meet new people. And the classes are so fun and uplifting and none of them are. When the kids hear classes or courses they think, oh, it's like school. It is not like school. There are each my husband hasn't looked at like I don't think any of these.

Speaker 2:

Each one has a fun activity to do and each one ends. Each lesson ends with a motivational quote to help you realize what a superstar you are and there's so much fun. And then there's even one about like the division are living, your two homes, only one you. I just did that one two days ago where it talks about how some of these beautiful kids they're living week to week, from parent to parent or every other weekend and they're living out of a suitcase. And you know what my heart breaks for these kids, because these kids are used as pawns more often than not between parents.

Speaker 2:

And that course specifically helps you realize and go through the motions and figure out you know that you are not the bad one, that you're amazing, get more acclimated and settled in to the two different places you're domiciled in and how you can kind of make it better and easier for you, not for the parents, but for you as the child or young adult. And so there's all those courses that really there's something in there for everyone that they can relate to. It's written with love and empathy and compassion. You know you can just feel that it's not like a textbook excerpt that's just thrown in there. It's real upbeat and uplifting and it adds there's a lot of character in it.

Speaker 1:

So y'all just stand by as she finishes mistakes, airs up and then I own it, I, I did it, it's. It'll be coming soon. She's got a lot on her plate right now.

Speaker 2:

That's an understatement. So I have a new family I'm working with. Go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 1:

Just be patient.

Speaker 2:

I have a new family that I'm working with and the Kids have grabbed. All of the kids I work with grab my heart. Some of them grab it much tighter, and the family that I'm working with has more than a softball league team of kids. Isn't that right about right? Yeah, close. And there are so many factors in this that there's multiple, multiple did I mention multiple fathers. And you know, all I can say about this is this is one of those 1% cases that it's where the male is the victim and survivor of abuse, and I cannot and won't give specifics about the case, but I think for the last two weeks I don't know, on average every night it's, I mean, I've been at a drop of a dime where I'm like I got to go and I'm on my way to the hospital, and that's been more than once, and let's see six eight-hour days, 10-hour days, working solely on this. But some of the people in this are so amazing and so full of love and the like, talking about some of the grandparents and, and you know, there there's some people that are so sweet and loving and it's such an honor. I just hate how we've come into paths with one another, Like one, if you've read who Kicked First or if you haven't.

Speaker 2:

There's an excerpt in the book from a memory where I was in a store. I was very pregnant. I was in a store and I was just totally disfigured. I had black and blue eyes, I was in a sling, my nose had been broken, my jaw had been dislocated. I just didn't look human, if you will.

Speaker 2:

And I am in the store and I had a woman asked if she could come up and say something to me and she did. And she said to me you are the most beautiful pregnant woman I've ever seen. And I kind of hid my hair over my face and said I'm so sorry and she's like not that way and she's like in your heart. And she was like. It just resonates and I've mentioned this story to my husband.

Speaker 2:

I don't even know many times and how much that woman just made my day and made me feel validated and visible, Because so many people who've been through abuse knows that you feel invisible. You don't feel like you're worthy or valid in any way to anyone except the playground of your attacker, who uses you as their punching bag. Excuse me so this one lady that I'm honored to have met and become a part of in this unfortunate event reminds me of that exact person, and I told her that the other day, and I really believe, though I do know for a fact it wasn't her. It could have been someone who was her twin. I'm gonna let him talk for me.

Speaker 1:

I'm about to go to a coughing spell so why said she the wife mentioned that this is a one percent that the male is the victim in this instance. I personally came from an abusive relationship in my second marriage where I kept silent, as most of us men do. We keep silent, we bottle it up, you know, as everybody tells us to. You know, you're a man, take it like a man Shut up, you know. So what, what does that do for us men? Well, it, it numbs us, sort of, but when we bottle it up, uh, sort of. But when we bottle it up, there there's only so much room that that we can put inside of us. You know, and as the years went on and I kept ignoring it and and I kept denying it, um, I got worse as as a human being. Um, I got worse as as a human being.

Speaker 1:

Okay, when I would come home or to the house and I would open the front door and I would see the second wife in the kitchen, uh, my countenance would drop. I would just, I would just, I would change and I've spoken with my wife over my, my current wife here, my last and my soulmate over the years, and she has recorded me um, how I was back then, and it is such a. To me it's, it's a different person. Uh, it it's so soulless, really lifeless, to hear myself and how depressed I sounded, how you know despondent I was. I was like you know, just hey, someone just shot my puppy. I'm lost, I've lost everything in the house fire. I just sounded miserable, and y'all because I kept ignoring it. Um, as the victim, I wouldn't speak up. I didn't want to listen to anyone, y'all. It got bad. I did to.

Speaker 1:

You know where I was drinking on the job and, sorry to say, I was not a cop at the time. Uh, this was after what I was drinking. Oh no, that's not true, because I did drink on the job as a cop. As a cop, okay, I do not condone that, and I was wrong for that. I do recall, yes, with wife one, no two, okay, and it got so bad that I would go to work with liquor in my coffee and then, well, hell with it. I just brought a flask to work with Crown April, you know. And every day after work, every one of us would go out to our pickup trucks and every one of us had a cooler with beer in there and we'd pop a beer in the parking lot and then drive, uh to the the bar right down the street.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, um guys, you don't have to live with it. You don't have to live with it. You hear me, you don't have to live with it. Okay, if she's got financial control over you, you can start breaking away. My wife has several courses books out there that teach survivors how to start planning their escape. Am I right? As my wife's yawning? Yes, my wife's been up for many hours and these allergies are just killing us. So I shouldn't say killing us, but they're making us miserable. I've been snoring at night. I wake up, she's snoring over there and my wife don't snore. It's just because of the congestion and allergies.

Speaker 2:

My eyes were glued shut this morning. Yeah, they were swollen shut and now she's here. Guys, I'm outside for hours and hours every day with this family and it's nobody's fault. It's just how it's turning. You know, it's how it's working out. Right to one of the cute little kids that I'm honored to be working with said I look like a puffer fish. That was it was cute, but a little like. Yeah, thanks, appreciate it, he's like just a little bit.

Speaker 2:

He's so stinking cute, that little kid. I was like, see this, this is called pollen. He was like you look like a puffer fish. So, yep, it's not pretty.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, that's just all I want to say on the 1%, on the guys. You know you don't have to live with it, you can get out of it. Guys, you know you don't have to live with it, you can't get out of it. And I promise you, from my perspective it's been so much better, like a bazillion times better, to be out of that relationship, to be away from that.

Speaker 2:

Would you ever get married again?

Speaker 1:

Abuser To you.

Speaker 2:

To anyone else? Yes to you, Only you. No, anybody other than me.

Speaker 1:

In fact, I think we have another wedding date coming up very soon. No, we don't. Yes, we do.

Speaker 2:

No, we don't. Yeah, we do. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

We've got another date coming up.

Speaker 2:

Would you care to explain? Yes, every year this is going to get good guys we're.

Speaker 1:

This is going to get good guys and the other one to remarry them Correct, get remarried, correct, and then we get new wedding rings Right, and what date is this newlywed thing? No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

You said when we got married the first time that you wanted us to stay newlyweds forever. And I said what did you do with Stucco, because I don't know where he went? And you said, yes, I'll call our minister. And she'll be like, yep, you did. And so I asked you last year and planned the big party and the wedding and even brought in Abby from the other side of where she is, the other side of where she is and your dad to be here for the wedding. And that was on your 50th birthday, which is just around the corner when you climb up another ring on that ladder. So you are, our newlywed terminology will be nolan boyd here in just mere weeks if you don't piss or get off the pot and talk to our minister and have rings I haven't waited to the last minute before you were less than 12 hours from losing the title in newlywed One year.

Speaker 2:

Less than 12 hours.

Speaker 1:

I like to keep you in suspense.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no.

Speaker 1:

No no.

Speaker 2:

No. So how do you get bugs not being in the house? How do you get rid of bugs in the house? Do you get rid of bugs in the house? Are you serious?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I'm serious you ask your husband nicely to go spray every day.

Speaker 2:

You're like babe, can you remind me tomorrow? So I will spray. And I say sure I'll remind you. And I'm like babe, did you spray? You gotta spray. I'll do it tomorrow. You know I'll do it tomorrow. You know I'll do it tomorrow. We have so much. Can I get Kayla up here for? This yeah, it's called a game controller and sleep.

Speaker 1:

Well, of course we're going to have a nap.

Speaker 2:

A nap is singular. A nap is singular. There's grass to cut. Many naps is plural. There are times you have had three and four.

Speaker 1:

Hello.

Speaker 2:

There are times you've had three and four.

Speaker 1:

She went, space cadet there?

Speaker 2:

No, because I mentioned Kayla, not Faith, and I'm talking about that other friend, and that's why we're talking about our other friend. And I can get faith up here too. And faith will tell you one nap is singular, but there are days where you do three and four and five. You've gone five naps in one day. I'll call faith Five naps. You have had five naps in a day. She's just going to play off you. Are you ready? I'll tell you, I'll call Faith. Five naps. You have had five naps in a day. She's just going to play off you.

Speaker 1:

Are you ready? I'll tell you.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you when they were oh, you know, I do know, you know my memory Absolutely In the car on the way to one of my surgeries. When we arrived, you fell asleep in the waiting area before I went back arrived, you fell asleep in the waiting area before I went back. You were brought back prior to me going into post-op or pre-op and you fell asleep standing up.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's great then when we arrived back here for my surgery, I came in and went straight to work and you went back and took a nap four. Then in the afternoon, later in the afternoon, you had too much to eat. You said I had too much to eat, I have to go take an old man nap five, and I'm not even counting going to sleep for the night and I know if I get on my phone and see if kayla is home or if she's out and about on her phone and arcel, I can see where she is and she'll say the same thing. Or or we can call our daughter, faith, up here and you can ask her, because I've told everybody he had five flippin' naps. I have surgery.

Speaker 1:

What can I say? I'm a superhero. Five naps, yes.

Speaker 2:

You have more sleep in one nap than I get in overnight. And how many?

Speaker 1:

guys out there are going to argue your side. What's wrong with a nap?

Speaker 2:

I welcome it. I need a good debate. Let's talk about the incompetency of Okay. Okay. So when you I am advocating for an individual who has been misdiagnosed and when I spoke to the chair of the division of the hospital, I was informed that I would be called back. It was done on a friday and they said they'd call it a Monday. That did not happen. That is now.

Speaker 1:

Three months later.

Speaker 2:

No, it's 11 weeks tomorrow. That's almost three months, right? So then I talked to patient advocacy and they say well, we need to get x, y and z okay. Well, don't you think you need to get consent as well from the patient? And I could have had jane bag of donuts right there, say, that was who they were. And they don't even verify these people. The health care system is screwed up. Number one, number two insurance cares more and makes you go through more hoops than anything I've ever seen in my life. If you need something like when I have to have a surgery, why is it I have to wait months to get on the calendar. It's not like I'm getting a boob job. Okay, this is a necessary operation, but you're in pain and they make you wait forever to get it done.

Speaker 1:

For the record, my wife does not need a boob job I've had a breast reduction.

Speaker 2:

I openly state it was one of the best things ever. Ever after my shoulder was replaced, they said the boulder holder ain't gonna work, so you're gonna have to get sucked. I was, yeah, I'm available right now. I don't know why men think that big-breasted women, you carry those things around. It is not pleasant. And here's what I don't get.

Speaker 2:

A breast is nothing but fat. It's just fat with a nipple on it. That's all it is. But men are like well, you gotta have big boobs, but you gotta be like tiny everywhere else. Well, if you like big boobs, why don't you like bigger women? If you want the boobs big, right, or they're going to be fake. Tiny, little framed people don't have big kahunas Like. They're just kazuntas, whatever you want to call them, they don't.

Speaker 2:

So when I ended up going and getting a breast reduction, they're like also, you get a lift right, this is so exciting for this surgery Finally one I'm happy about. And they're like we lift you. And I'm, you know, naive. And I was like what do you mean? Well, we lift you so you A never have to wear a bra again, ah, ah, woohoo. And B you'll never have furniture disease where your chest goes into your drawers and they droop right, so you never have to worry about them sagging into your bridges. Because as you get older, you know, the boobs start sagging. Well, when you get a reduction and you get lifted, they don't, which is a beautiful thing. And then, like big breasted women know this, when you lay on your back, they flop onto the side.

Speaker 1:

What was that they do? They what Flop? What was that animated sound? Why they do it's like breaking glass?

Speaker 2:

They could right. I mean they literally just flop over. I've never heard a titty go. Why did you use that word?

Speaker 1:

Because that's what they are.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

It's a breast, don't say boobs.

Speaker 2:

That just sounds funny. I hate that word. No, booby. No, the other one, oh, but it's true, no. So when I had my reduction, I was so I wanted to be flatter. I was like no, I want to be smaller, nope is this show about your?

Speaker 2:

boobs. I'm just saying, that's what I'm saying. Why is it? When you need to have a surgery, you have to wait forever to get it done, and that's not right, that's not fair. And then they make you jump through hoops. Perfect example is that I had to go through all this rigmarole malarkey to get this thing. It's like aa-roll malarkey to get this thing. It's like a pacemaker that they're gonna put in me. And they make you go through all of this crap in order to get insurance approval while you're still in agony. So then they put in a temporary one to see how you handle it. Then they yank it out of you in the office the temporary one. And then you schedule and you have to like rip the band-aid off, deal with all of it again, and then go back and get the real one, the permanent one, whatever, and where do you want it? It's going to look like a little pocket underneath your skin, right. Stop, don't you? Even so, my husband's trying to like why are you shaking your legs?

Speaker 1:

Because I'm thirsty and my throat hurts. I'll go fetch you something.

Speaker 2:

No, we have to cut this short Because, like my eyes are watering, I'm coughing. I don't want my friends and family that listen to this, because everybody who listens, we're one big happy family Going holy Toledo. Victoria, like you know, you cough and it's like you. No need for ear test today. I don't want to do that to them. That's not fair I care about our listeners. I care for our listeners. Yes, because, by the way, happy easter to everybody oh yeah, happy easter.

Speaker 2:

We totally forgot that one. However. My husband got Easter gifts, faith got Easter gifts.

Speaker 1:

How do you know it was Easter?

Speaker 2:

Do you?

Speaker 1:

know when.

Speaker 2:

Christmas is.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's this year. Do you know about?

Speaker 2:

Valentine's.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

My birthday. Yes, case closed. You're pretty smart. Oh, I don't know why people think I'm not seriously. Uh-huh, yep, so are you spraying tonight? Yes I have it recorded now. Yep, are you beautiful? No, and our oldest just lied. I did not. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. I'm looking and I have trifocals at you and I have trifocals, so I really Look, I have trifocals and all three agree. However, our oldest is legal in like a few hours.

Speaker 1:

Legal is 18.

Speaker 2:

21 to drink Legal.

Speaker 1:

To drink, yeah Is 21. Yeah, okay, there's a difference.

Speaker 2:

Damn, you're old. I am old, but you're like a fine wine. Not Sean Connery fine wine, but like a fine wine he's shaken instead.

Speaker 1:

I'm a fine wine yeah you know, Is that wine at the dentist?

Speaker 2:

No, you're a pure P word at the dentist. You're a wuss. Go get this thing done. That they just did to my back and see how you handle it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So the reason for all these surgeries that my wife's having. You may ask why, victoria, are you having all these freaking surgeries? Well, pop over to Amazon and pick up our first book. Oh Lord, it's called who Kicked First, by Victoria Curie.

Speaker 2:

Here's something my husband doesn't understand the protocol and timeliness of the executive function chain. No matter how many people he asks, they all tell him that the president is under the founder and CEO. So that makes you under me, and so, with that being said, I need to move you into marketing. So maybe you can start doing some of the marketing, because I do all of it.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying I have no problem being on top.

Speaker 2:

I thought this was PG rating.

Speaker 1:

You said I was under you.

Speaker 2:

As president. I designated you as president. I brought you as president. I designated you as president.

Speaker 1:

I brought you in as president, so you can't be over me, because this has been my company since inception of 2006.

Speaker 2:

Now it's mine, no, it's ours.

Speaker 1:

But I'm the founder and CEO. Great, wonderful, tell them about your books. I don't have to, I've got you. Wonderful, tell them about your books.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to, I've got you for that.

Speaker 1:

You've got 41 books.

Speaker 2:

They're not all out at Amazon. No, they're different places and some of them have they're out, but some of them are not for sale at this point because I use them.

Speaker 1:

But you can finish or publish all of them.

Speaker 2:

See how men always want to finish first, and you want to finish first and you teach people how to publish their books.

Speaker 1:

Yes, why do men always want to finish first?

Speaker 2:

I don't know what all men do I just know what I do what do you do?

Speaker 1:

I'm a certified certifiable no, no, I'm a certified cunnilinguist and I make sure my woman is pleasured to the utmost are you talking about countries? What what woman what?

Speaker 2:

you said this was supposed to be pg. This shirt is so perfect for you. This shirt is so perfect for you. I have a short attention span. I just saw oh wait, look a squirrel. Faith got that for you. Oh, can we just say Faith wrote me a poem within five minutes. Where is it? Where's my purse? Where's my purse? Ha, ha, I'm going to read it. No, you know, yeah, I ha, I'm going to read it. No, you know, yeah, I am, I'm going to read it. Hold on, let me get it Okay.

Speaker 1:

You don't stand by until she gets this poem.

Speaker 2:

My mom.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, y'all just remember, this is my daughter.

Speaker 2:

Listen, nutbag, this is my daughter. My bag, no, she is my daughter.

Speaker 1:

She's become my bag. No.

Speaker 2:

She's my heart as the world looked down upon her. Unsafe, neglected, and pain is in her mind. Yet she pushes it back. She hides it For the one that she loves. You see, she has been pained, yes, she has been neglected, yes, she has been bruised and scarred and all in between. But her hope still lies within those few in her walls.

Speaker 2:

Her husband, who is a pain to deal with, has sweet moments. He's been loving her for over 20 plus years. Her sweet child, who's stubborn yet loyal, has always been her number one fan. Her life was hell roller coaster if must. But yet behind those walls are the people who keep her grounded and supported and in spite of the many letdowns, she had always rised back up like a phoenix because those that support her broke, scarred. They supported her, broke her and scarred her. Yet she flies and the ones who she knows and are behind that wall will eternally stay by her sign. For her to write that and she wrote it in like three minutes, and Faith has never read who Kicked First. Faith knows of a bad man who hurt mommy, and not way too much more than that. She has seen scars that cannot be hidden and she doesn't know the stories behind them. But for her To Write something from her heart like that Chokes me up, because she's so amazing. She is so amazing. I can't believe that I.

Speaker 1:

No I in T.

Speaker 2:

There's no I in T. There's no I in asshole. I cannot believe how amazing she is, because she has fought and overcome more in her less than 21 years of life than most people have in 10 lifetimes, and a contagious smile was built around her. And my greatest honor in this entire world is being her mom, because she is a smart ass. She is a ray of light in the darkest night. She is hope when you have none. She is amazing, she is the greatest gift and anyone who has been around her for five minutes is better because of it.

Speaker 2:

And the sorry pieces of shit in and has been in her life, who are so self-centered and narcissistic that their head is so far in their ass that they have allowed negativity to transpire between them and Faith, when Faith didn't do anything but try to love you. You all can go to hell. I'm just saying you know the narcissistic people who gave her her word and his word that they would never, ever hurt her or not be there for her or turn their backs on her for her or turn their backs on her and would never stop loving her and did all of the above can go to hell, and if they want to like be negative about me. I'll tell you where you can email me and you can write me. If you go against my child and you make empty promises to her and you lie to her face and you cuss her out and you say all these hurtful, nasty things, then you are a worthless piece of shit, because this kid, since four years of age, has done nothing but try to help other people. She has fundraised since the age of four. She has loved people who do not deserve to be in her presence for 30 bleeping seconds. She has always been there unconditionally for people. She has always loved these people without asking for a thing back, and in turn, these people use her maliciously and walk all over her until they didn't think they could get anything else out of her.

Speaker 2:

And that was it. This is a beautiful, gifted young lady who has so much love to give, has the biggest heart of anyone I've ever met in my life, and even her hugs wrap your heart. There's no way to look at that beautiful face and not just melt when you see her and these people and there's a few, I can name a few, and I would like to hear what my husband has to say, because I really already know. I would like to hear what he has to say about this, like to hear what my husband has to say, because I really already know. I would like to hear what he has to say about this. These people no, no, no, because I have no problem. I won't like shelter in place about it, I won't filter it these people who said I will never, ever do this to you. I will be there for you, I love you. And she says all I want is a grandfather, all I want is a grandmother, all I want is whatever. I don't want anything from you. I don't want your money, I don't want your anything. I want time and I want to love you and that's what she asks for. And we have people, not just on my side. At least I can say not that for a millisecond. I want to defend my sperm and egg donor.

Speaker 2:

They never cussed her out. They've done a lot, but they never cussed her out. There have been other people in those roles that have, and she did nothing to them. And she laid up in a hospital bed and they said she wouldn't make it through the night. She laid up in a hospital bed and they said she wouldn't make it through the night, and she did. She was in complete organ failure. She was getting a kidney transplant.

Speaker 2:

I started the process to give her mine, my husband started the process, then we went through the adoption and none of these people could do so much as to send a congratulations, a thank you, a kiss. My ass, nothing, nothing but the minute oh, you got spam mail or whatever else. The reason is, today that's different, because it's about them. That is the pure definition of narcissism at its finest. What do I know? I don't have education in it, right? I'm uneducated, right, like I don't know anything about narcissism. I don't know anything about abuse. I don't know anything about counseling people who've gone through this, even though every single one of these people have had me help them in those exact arenas.

Speaker 2:

I've helped every single one of these people who have hurt our daughter, which makes me an idiot, because I try to do the right thing and help them, and it's been every single one of them, and I've tried and tried to help them and I did, and we didn't want anything from it because they were supposed to be family. But when it came to our kid, or even my amputation, which I don't care because it was about me and I don't care, but my amputation happened to me, but it also happened to my husband and it happened to my daughter. Their mom and their wife lost their arm, lost the arm and not even so much as a reach out, however, you can get told well, she has another arm. She could have called us right, because I'm not a carpet, even though most people because I'm not a carpet, even though most people and my husband has said this for far too long that I have a very bad habit of letting people walk all over me and I let them take advantage of me, and I do it because I have a big heart and I don't say a word. I just let it keep happening. But when you hurt our daughter, it's now my daughter and it's now me. And when these people who define the terminology of narcissism want to artificially, at the time, love her when it's advantageous materialistically for them, they can kiss my ass.

Speaker 2:

Period, bold italic highlighted. And if they have an issue, you can reach out to me on my email. I would say it, but I don't think you're smart enough to write it down. I can spell it out for you so that you don't make the mistake that you couldn't spell my name right to begin with, and that's not me degrading them, that's not me belittling them, that's me being truthful, because I have letters of writing where not even the names are spelled correctly, of their own kin. So I am sticking up for what is right, and now I'm going to let you say what you have to say, and he's going to say something like I agree with her, she said her, speak, or whatever. Defend your daughter, defend what's right, say your piece about it no, I think we pretty much said enough.

Speaker 2:

I knew you were going to say that I knew it you did perfect.

Speaker 1:

I love to see her get fired up. She's so hot and sexy. I think we're pretty much said enough. I knew you were going to say that. I knew it. You did perfect. I love to see her get fired up. She's so hot and sexy. But she's mine. She's my wife. I love her for it. No, I didn't leave her when she had her arm amputated. No, I haven't left her over the I don't know God, 20, 30-something surgeries over the past four years that I've seen her go through. No, I love her and I know she loves me. You're pointing at our daughter. Yeah, I don't like to think about how many surgeries she's been through.

Speaker 2:

What about how people have treated her?

Speaker 1:

Well, that's already in the past. Did something spark this today?

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying in general, like we reach out to the people to make sure they're okay and they don't even respond to us, but then something happens with her and they don't say anything.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, we know they're a piece of shit. I mean, it's not just family members, it's also friends.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't call them friends anymore, but I'm saying I watch the pain in her face because all she wants to do is love these people and these people don't know whether to itch their watch or whine their ass. And I know she wants to feel validated by having us say something on her behalf, because she just wanted to love them.

Speaker 1:

She knows we do.

Speaker 2:

Right, she's talking about them.

Speaker 1:

She knows we do. We stick up for our kids. That's what we do as parents.

Speaker 2:

Obviously, I'm the vocal one. Sometimes, If you could say any one thing to these people, what would you say?

Speaker 1:

Whatever you're going to say to them, they have to speak up first. They have to come to us.

Speaker 2:

If they did, would you forgive them? I don't need to forgive them that's not what I asked you, though it's up to y'all if they came to you and asked if you would forgive them, what would you say?

Speaker 1:

I don't know yet, I really don't know, but they need to come to y'all first.

Speaker 2:

And you know that'll never happen.

Speaker 1:

You and our little girl are the ones they offended first and foremost.

Speaker 2:

But you know they're not going to. They've lost out on the most amazing girl they could have ever had in their life. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yep, here in a few hours could have ever had in their life. Yeah, you know, here in a few hours we'll try to reach out to our son, wish him a happy birthday Only first birthday, so I think this was a good episode. Yeah, that a child fired up. I'm very fired up yeah, she's the vocal one. I'm the guy in the background who y'all have to watch out for more. No, no, no. Here's the difference. Hold on, no, no, no, I'm not noisy, hold on.

Speaker 2:

First of all, I'm not noisy, I'm deaf, and so I speak louder I have hearing aids too fine, but what, what? What spike mike? What did you call me?

Speaker 1:

I have hearing aids too.

Speaker 2:

I have 90% hearing loss in one ear and 100% in the other.

Speaker 1:

You don't wear your hearing aids.

Speaker 2:

What Exactly? I am the quiet one. I never yell, I don't scream, I don't curse, I don't disrespect you don't curse, Not at somebody.

Speaker 1:

On this show alone you said the word ass a hundred times.

Speaker 2:

I'm referencing a person, it's an adjective, it's a discriminatory word that explains how stupid somebody is. And I don't say stupid as a mental intellect. I'm telling them a place they could go visit, first of all and second. I'm not saying stupid as if it's a disability or a challenge. I'm saying because their heads and their ass. There's a difference. And here's the difference. I'm the quiet one until you do something to hurt a child or someone I love.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing. You've seen me argue. Well, it's not really an argument, can't really say debate. Like when Faith was in the hospital and I fired the nurse and the other nurses were in the hall watching, right, seriously, I can't tell you how many times people are like I wouldn't want to be on her, against her, like I don't want to be on the side of her Right no-transcript. And the other people who only come around when they need stuff and they talk about you as if you're some dirty carpet the rest of the time.

Speaker 2:

You know that's the whole definition of narcissist. They can never admit they're wrong. They can never admit they've done anything wrong. They cannot be accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Poor, pity me. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2:

When have you ever heard me say, oh my God, I'm so tired I'm not going to work. I go into bed and work and you don't ever hear me say I can't. I tell you I got to go get stuff done. The minute we're done eating, I'm up here working. I got to get stuff done. You're like babe, can't you take 10 minutes and just sit with me? I got stuff to do. I got to work, I got to get stuff done.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's accountability when you purposely, maliciously hurt somebody who has done nothing but try to take care of you and be there for you and all they want to do is talk about you and like slander you and then what they say about other people, you and then what they say about other people. They like the, the podcast that I have that I've never released. I won't release them because I don't want to hurt the kids. I will never hurt the kids but it would destroy them. But I won't do it because I won't hurt the kids. If I was vindictive and narcissistic, I would release it because narcissists love to see other people misery like themselves. Okay, I'm done, you can close it out.

Speaker 1:

Are you sure? Sure, all right y'all. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Contagious Smile. My wife is so funny. I don't know who got her fired up tonight, but yeah, she, she's fired up. Say good night, babe good night babe really good night y'all.

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