A Contagious Smile Podcast
A Contagious Smile is a powerful platform dedicated to uplifting and empowering special needs families and survivors of domestic violence. Through heartfelt stories, we shine a light on the journeys of extraordinary individuals who have overcome unimaginable challenges. Their triumphs serve as a testament to resilience and strength, inspiring others to rediscover their own inner light. Each episode features candid interviews with survivors, advocates, and experts who provide valuable resources and insights to support those on their own paths to healing and empowerment. Join us as we celebrate the power of resilience, the beauty of shared stories, and the unstoppable spirit of those who turn adversity into hope. Let us guide you in rekindling your spirit, because every smile tells a story of courage and transformation.
A Contagious Smile Podcast
The Cereal-Slurping Philosopher's Guide to Toxic Family Relations
We're back after a three-week hiatus, and there's a good reason for our absence. Victoria has undergone two additional surgeries, including a spinal implant for her Complex Regional Pain Syndrome that has miraculously reduced her pain by over 80%. As she puts it with characteristic humor, "I really should get free HBO at this point with all these things I have to plug in and out."
But just as life seemed to be settling into a healthier rhythm, we experienced what we can only describe as a "tsunami of toxicity" – multiple estranged family members suddenly reaching out from both sides after years of no contact. The timing wasn't random. These reconnection attempts came after these individuals experienced health crises or deaths that shifted their perspectives about mortality and relationships. Yet the painful patterns quickly re-emerged, revealing the self-centered nature of these renewed connections.
What struck us most profoundly was how these same family members never reached out when our daughter was critically ill in organ failure, yet they didn't hesitate to repost about her condition on social media for sympathy. This brought us to the central question that survivors of narcissistic relationships often wrestle with: Can narcissists truly change? Our professional experience and personal journey suggest that while they might adjust their presentation temporarily, fundamental transformation is exceedingly rare.
The conversation takes a deep dive into what drives narcissistic behavior, exploring the calculated nature of how they manipulate and harm others. We discuss the impossibility of imagining life without empathy – the inability to comprehend how someone could go about their daily activities without genuine concern for a loved one in crisis. For those dealing with toxic family relationships, we offer a powerful starting point: ask yourself why someone would derive satisfaction from causing others pain, and why anyone would choose drama and negativity when unconditional love offers so much more fulfillment.
Whether you're currently navigating complicated family dynamics or healing from narcissistic abuse, this raw, heartfelt discussion offers validation, perspective, and practical wisdom. Join us as we explore how to protect your peace while setting appropriate boundaries with those who've caused harm. Life's too short for toxicity – choose joy, authenticity, and genuine connection instead.
Good evening and welcome to another episode of A Pentecost Smile Unstoppable. You have the redhead and the redneck. He's jaw jacking on some cereal. What would that be called? Not jaw jacking? What would it be You're going to come up with? Like it's eating, babe, that's right. So we've been a little busy lately, don't you think? Mm-hmm, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:So let me clarify this Y'all. We've been gone for about three weeks now, three weeks. Something like that we have not put out a podcast and this is the reason. It's my fault. It's not my wife's fault, it is my fault, Something like that. We have not put out a podcast and this is the reason. It's my fault. It's not my wife's fault, it is my fault. It is not. It is that POS and that doctor. It's their fault, anyway.
Speaker 1:There's a little more toxicity than that.
Speaker 2:But my wife has undergone two additional surgeries in the past three weeks. Yeah, I didn't feel the need to put her health behind the podcast, so I made her rest. I made her sit on her butt.
Speaker 1:I still worked.
Speaker 2:I made her lay in the bed and so we didn't put out a podcast. So I do apologize for all you faithful listeners out there. You know we have several hundred thousands on each different platform, so you know we apologize, but I hope you all understand.
Speaker 2:having had the two surgeries, my wife is doing much, much better. Thank you all. If you all follow her on Facebook or wherever, you'll see that or hear that she is probably somewhere between 80 to 92% pain less than she was before. 2% pain less than she was before. She's a warrior, y'all.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's quiet airtime. Anyway, thanks babe. I did a trial stem router for pain. I also have CRPS, complex regional pain syndrome. Not that this was this show is about cause, it's not and I had to do a temporary which prohibited me from like basically turning, twisting, bending anything, and the device was externally placed upon my back and I wore it to see what kind of relief I could get and it was amazing. And then they pulled it out, cut stitches and then I got my implanted device. It was complicated surgery but, knock on wood, it all came out.
Speaker 1:now I'm learning to live with this and it's just one more thing for me to plug in and plug out and I mean I really should get better life. I'm just like right, I mean come on now and I really think they should be giving me like free hbo at this point. I mean he's just looking at me like this. Okay, so we haven't really talked about, you know, our foundation of how we help people survive domestic violence and other types of abuse and then all of a sudden, you know how they, it's like the calm before the storm, and then all of a sudden it's like whoosh, welcome to toxicity hell.
Speaker 1:And that's where we have been. We got just a Tosani. What Did I say? It wrong?
Speaker 2:Yes, you did. You have three freaking doctors.
Speaker 1:So sleep deprived. You probably have a 6.0.
Speaker 2:GPA. I don't know if that's possible. And you said a Tosami Tsunami. Oh my God, yeah Y'all. I've done Red Dead Fire tsunami. Oh my God, Y'all.
Speaker 1:I've read that fire. Wow, I can't believe I did that. We had a tsunami of toxicity in the last ten days. We'll just go down seven.
Speaker 2:We had so much.
Speaker 1:And any of you know, us know that the fundamentals of our home because it's a home, not a house, and there's a huge difference is simply fame no drama, no toxicity, unconditional love and acceptance and my husband's chowing down on.
Speaker 2:I've been looking for that duster, that feather duster.
Speaker 1:Left field hello.
Speaker 2:Well, I need to dust some things in the house.
Speaker 1:The home. We need to dust some toxicity out. So this is really the basis of our foundation, of what we talk about and where would you say our toxicity? Level was taken to in the last week.
Speaker 2:We just had some old family members reacquaint themselves with us out of left field, and it's you know. So how do you read that? You know, that you know. After years and years of not speaking to certain family members, all of a sudden, here they come out of left field, one right after the other. You're like what the heck is going on. You know where's this coming from. Are we being tried? Are we being tested?
Speaker 2:You know, is something going on. You know the universe is saying something we don't know, so we're riding it out. We're seeing how it's going. Can we talk about?
Speaker 1:this for a minute.
Speaker 2:You can talk about it. I'm going to continue eating my vittles and then you can add in here.
Speaker 1:So, first thing, we were so happy to see my husband's brother reach out and talk to him and that was awesome and they had a pretty lengthy conversation him and that was awesome and they had a pretty lengthy conversation and it was asked if we would consider talking to his mom and we have been no contact for a while and his brother was very forthcoming and saying that all he knew he didn't have her side of the story. All he knew is what she had told him.
Speaker 1:Correct me if I'm wrong which he said to us? All she said was it was all our fault and that's all the story he knew. That was what he said, right? Nobody can see you shake your head. I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this. That's what he said, right? Nobody can see you shake your head.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what he said, right. But here's the thing and I talk about this so much when I'm talking with other people- when I'm helping other people who are in the healing process is do you believe a narcissist can change like perfect example, my sperm donor? Do I believe he could change. This is the very first time in my entire life that I have ever taken the stance that I have after. We were no contact with them and literally I haven't been reaching out and calling him or texting him or or anything and he came to you wanting to talk to you.
Speaker 1:And then the next thing I know he needed something and this is how it went, but I, for the first time ever, haven't you know, reached back out because I mean, you nailed it when you said it's about money with him, like it's all about money and that's how some people are. I want you to see how important I am by all the monetary things that I can show. That doesn't impress me at all. You've known that for 25 years.
Speaker 2:I'll interject and say the answer is no.
Speaker 1:You don't think a narcissist can change?
Speaker 2:No, I believe they can persuade you that they're on the straight and narrow, they're on the right path to recovery. They can glamorize what they're doing Right, but the telltale signs come out and they may not even know it, but we've seen it in both sides and it's not going to change. So I think the answer is no. If you're asking me, if you're asking the audience, the listeners, no, I mean maybe they've had somebody in their life.
Speaker 1:I would love for them to tell me about it, because in the years that I've been helping people and working on on this platform, I've never met one that changed. I mean I haven't. They might change like something about them physically to make themselves appear different, but internal psychologically they don't change. Like something about them physically to make themselves appear different, but internal psychologically they don't change. So we end up having this we can talk about both.
Speaker 1:We end up having this conversation and, um, the tables have turned with my biological family where you know they've reached out because they need something. They wanted to let me know about some things that have happened to my biological mother and I feel horrible that she has gone through what she has. But it's just ironic when I'm told you have no idea what it's like to take care of somebody who has medical needs, and anybody who knows me or our daughter faith knows I don't even know how to summarize that right. I mean, between the two of us we have like 150 some surgeries most of them, thank god, are mine, because who wants their child to endure anything like that and to to complain about having to take care?
Speaker 2:of your spouse. I couldn't fathom it, I will take care of my husband.
Speaker 1:I'll wipe his butt, I will blow his nose. Yeah, baby, come on, I will tend to his needs, no matter what. I won't put him in a home, I just won't. I don't care, I won't do it. I'll be like I'll put on my prosthetic and that has a hell of a gripper. I'll do what I need to do. If I need to pull you on a sheet or something, I'll get that prosthetic on and use that strength of that gripper on that hand, but to hear that, that's heart-wrenching.
Speaker 1:And then we get that story from your brother and then your mom calls and what really bothered me is she said three things really got to her and the three things that got to her had to do with her leaving dog food in the bedroom, which caused bugs, her messing up a couch and her telling our daughter what to do basically.
Speaker 1:Telling our daughter what to do basically. And those three things trumped her feeling the need to even contact us when we almost lost faith, and I could see the pain in my husband's face and eyes and it really hurt him, because there is no excuse for anybody I'm not just talking about her In general.
Speaker 1:so many people on either side, nobody reached out to say what can we do? How can we help? You know, just pray about it. But so quickly we were and I mean them to post about it to get sympathy from others. I mean, how do you comprehend that? How do you justify that in your mind?
Speaker 2:Um, I don't. So, going back to what I said earlier, there was a death in the family of friends circle back on my side of the family and that's when my brother reached out. After three years no contact reached out. Okay, and that's how the conversation got going with my mother and you know, excuse me, I just burped the fact that they're excuse me, y'all. I'm burping on my hair. That's rude, the fact that that you know they're realizing hey, you know, we're only a heartbeat away from death.
Speaker 2:Their perspective changed and, and I believe that's why- we were contacted. Okay, on my wife's side, her father reached out to us shortly after her mother had a stroke. So now his perspective has changed because he's having to take care of his wife more physically and it's taken a toll on him, and so his perspective has changed, as my mother and brother's perspective has changed. So, you know, can a narcissist change?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't think so, but it would have to be a huge how do you justify that None of those people you just named, plus so many more, never reached out when faith was literally complete organ failure, until it would make it to tonight, and they all knew about it?
Speaker 2:Right, but it's not right there in front of them. It's not their child. It was when they reposted it. It's not their child.
Speaker 1:It was when they reposted it for sympathy.
Speaker 2:It's not their child. It was when they reposted it for sympathy. It's not their child, right?
Speaker 1:It's their grandchild, it's their niece, it's their but that doesn't make it okay, it's their friend who it was, a friend who made everybody contact you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not a niece, it's not a grandchild I can't answer for them. Right. But the heavy part of it is is that immediately I'm told well, I know what she's about to say because of her tone.
Speaker 1:You don't know what I'm going to say because, right or wrong, I said, if they reach out during this ordeal with faith, we need to take the walls down and have the support and the whole time, you know what, and I've said this a million times, like the end of time, literally, I have said I don't care, and my husband's so, gentle, and sweet about this with me because I told him I was like you want to reconnect, that's on you, but, and he was like, no, they need to contact my wife and they need to contact my daughter. I was like I don't care about me, I care about my daughter. Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2:you call me gentle you are in ways. I'm a big, soft stocky but I don't care.
Speaker 1:You know that they don't ask about me. I don't care about that. I care about our daughter and I care about you. But even when they were on the phone, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:How is she doing since this happened? It wasn't. You know how has she been? And then, even when she tried to speak her, her say it was I don't like what you said to me. Well, she was a child at the time and, without going into any of the specifics, that doesn't make it justifiable. You're supposed to be the adult right and so I'm the one that she decides to talk about on you know all platforms that. Well, if ever read her tiktok, she'll never accept my apology. Well, I would if it was genuine you know when you come after my family.
Speaker 1:This is a three team unit and we have been happy and trauma-free and drama-free and not trauma-free trauma and I mean and I'm talking about in the realm of narcissism. I'm talking about in the realm and I you know, unfortunately I hate to say. I'm an expert in narcissism, but a lot of big universities say that I am you know, and to know and I even said I know what's coming next. Watch.
Speaker 2:And it was exactly. And I don't want to be right.
Speaker 1:I want to be proven wrong. Show me to be proven wrong. Show me right, just show me. And that's the problem is that today, in general, people are all about themselves.
Speaker 1:you very rarely find somebody who genuinely cares about others right like it's not wholesomeness is gone out the window and in the trash and that's so sad, it really is, and it's just like if you start to get close to somebody and then you realize the facade that's being played, then they're going to spin it on you because you're not supposed to be able to figure them out Right, and that's not what life is about.
Speaker 1:I mean, you and I have both been through trauma and and like emotionally and physically and psychologically abusive partners and family members and I I'm trying not to look at my husband because if he starts slurping the milk and the cereal I'm gonna laugh but we have both been through like horrific individuals, both intimately and in family, and you just want to look at them and say what is wrong with you, Life is too short, why and what makes whatever you're doing so important that you can't take five minutes Right and just say and the answer was well, I didn't think he would talk to me Are you? Are you serious? Like you? Don't think we talked to you?
Speaker 1:our daughter was in there on life support, told we'd make her comfortable through the night hell. One of them lives 30 minutes away right it doesn't matter I mean it's not advantageous for their growth and because of that you're not going to hear from them until it's necessary that they need something from you, and we're learning that.
Speaker 1:And I mean, unfortunately, we know it, but and it was just like a too too much at one time it was just like whoosh, here's this huge wave of narcissists, like in a line that just got picked up by a wave in the ocean and just landed at us, and the thing is is is that you know what? Do you want to spend your life dealing with the unhappiness of others, because misery loves company, or do you want to have happiness in your life? Do you want unconditional love? Do you want to look at your spouse sitting across from you and thank God that you have him or her because of how lucky you are? You know, my husband and I are getting remarried next week.
Speaker 2:Yippee, what that was, genuine, that was not genuine.
Speaker 1:That was genuine, that was not genuine.
Speaker 2:I promise it was.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't Watch. I can get him to say whoopee just the same. There's like eight boxes of me that you build with stuff in there. What See, what see. But that's just me. His life is too short. But you know what I look at, how you look at faith and how she don't make that curly look. You're not elvis, and I see how much you just love her and I see the genuineness and softness of your heart to her.
Speaker 2:Excuse me.
Speaker 1:And it's so authentic and sweet. And why would anybody want to settle for anything other than that? Like the realists, need to see that that's what life is about.
Speaker 2:Get rid of the toxicity, get rid of the negativity, get rid of the heartache and enjoy life.
Speaker 1:I mean, look how much of a fighter Faith is right. That kid is a fighter. No, she's a warrior. That kid is a warrior, and to have she's got scars prove it. Yes, she does, and she wears them like a badge of honor, as she should, as she should. And you know, I will say this is. I'll get some slack for this and that's okay.
Speaker 1:There was a girl who lived in the neighborhood that was very rude to our daughter, um, for multiple reasons, and I hadn't seen her in a while, and then I did see her and she was incredibly rude, just like always, and I, you know, I mentioned the fact that you know the years didn't.
Speaker 2:Diminish her attitude.
Speaker 1:Correct. But I mean, what makes them so much more important than her that they can mistreat somebody for one reason or another?
Speaker 2:I mean who are they? They're not.
Speaker 1:God. So who are they? They have zero reason to act as if they're better than her or you or me or anybody else. I mean, we're people, you know, and the whole respect thing is out the window, but yet she'll hold an elevator door for an elderly person and make the whole elevator wait.
Speaker 1:She'll open the door for somebody. She says please. She says thank you, but yeah, that kid can hold her own. There is no question that she can't hold her own and you know what. She has a mouth on her and you know what she's earned every right to use it. She has. She sure has, but she won't start it, but she'll bring it. I mean, she will bring it tenfold. But that's just. The kicker is, why do people believe that they are above others? You know, I was doing a class earlier today and somebody said well, when you're not super famous, or even famous really at all, yet, how do you get your name out there? What would your billboard be like? How would you do your billboard? And then somebody said oh, victoria just has to have a face like just do your face.
Speaker 1:Said, oh, victoria just has to have her face. Like, just do your face. I'm like that's not true. And they said you know, you're so humble about who you are and where you are that you don't either see it or you just don't accept it. And I don't. I put well, I can't say that. I was gonna say I put my pants on, just like everybody else but that's not necessarily true, if everybody put their pants on one-handed.
Speaker 1:I put my pants on like everybody else, but I am no different than my husband and my daughter and you know, Joey bag of donuts, but I would say that I'm better than the narcissistic abuser who constantly wants to torment and torture people because they're unhappy with themselves. Instead of hurting others, why don't you work on yourself? Why don't you take?
Speaker 1:a minute take a piece of paper. Hell, do it in crayon if you're not sophisticated enough to write and pin and write down your, your things about you that are just evil. They're horrible, heartless. Why is it start? With one basic question why do you get satisfaction from hurting others? What a powerful way to start right. Just take a piece of paper, write the number one and a dot beside it I'm gonna break this down kindergarten style and write, even if you have like whatever, just write.
Speaker 1:You can like short it. Instead of the word y, write the letter y and then do I get enjoyment from seeing pain in others, like why, and you know what one of the things that we did in one of the Yale courses was we tried to figure out how that is.
Speaker 1:And the professor says if you can't figure out how they get satisfaction, congratulations, you will never be and never are one of them Like, I can help you solve it and I can help you figure out why, but I can't be in the mindset to say well, they want to make you miserable because X, y and Z, just like that because that makes me no different than them.
Speaker 1:But I can't wrap around my head why somebody wants to bring misery, uncertainty, defamation of character to somebody else, especially a child, especially a beautiful child who said nothing to you. You know that's why you break the cycle. But let's start with breaking yourself down.
Speaker 2:Break it down, why do?
Speaker 1:I get enjoyment from hurting someone else. Why do I love to have a huge cauldron with a big freaking spoon? Why do I love to stir that pot of drama? Why do I need drama and hating other people to be my air of life, like that is my air?
Speaker 2:now that that begs the question, dr victoria, and get your answer sure, um? Are there wires crossed? Is there something mentally wrong with them, or is it they're upbreaking?
Speaker 1:no, well then, you and I would be or is it self-taught? It's self-taught. You and I would be nuts. Now we have the opportunity to continue on the pattern, but you and I decided to break the cycle right. So we broke the cycle, but no, and think about it like this, and this is horrible so just bear with me a minute because you'll see the point.
Speaker 1:A narcissist is so manipulative right that their game is so manipulative and so like just tedious to every point that they do. I mean, think about it like it's so planned out, it's premeditated in its own way, that the the logic or lack thereof right that they put into it to bring misery onto others, to bring them down to that level that this individual is sitting at, doesn't make them. I mean it's almost calculated in so many ways and it's it's a little horrifying. It's a little horrifying, I mean, when you think about it, because anybody can have a bad day. Oh, I lost my arm, and what do I do?
Speaker 1:I think my entire or staff prior to them whacking it off. But I'm not this evil, horrific, few my french bitch about it. Now you know, I tell kids I'm captain hook's sister you know, I just lost my and they love it.
Speaker 2:They think it's hysterical now it's the adults that stare more than anything.
Speaker 1:You know, I haven't gotten acclimated and it's been a couple years, but I mean, there's still things people said you'll never tie your shoe again. I tie my shoe, my shoe. I can do it, thank you. But the thing is is that, are you going to allow yourself to fall into the pattern, or are you better than that and you can dust yourself off and start with number one? What is it about me that loves to see others suffer?
Speaker 2:May I interject something? Yes, for those dirty-minded rednecks out there, she did say whack it off.
Speaker 1:Oh my, I didn't even. Okay, that's where you are with that. Oh my Lord, seriously, I would say it's electr, electrifying, but I'm getting that right now? No, seriously, but I mean, why think about it?
Speaker 2:you can't answer that question I can't because I just can't. I can't fathom, I can't, I cannot, I just can't.
Speaker 1:Here's the perfect example, and I'm gonna shrink you for a second, even though I'm not a shrink. Let me ask you a question. I want you to imagine not watch it. I want you to imagine not giving two rats the hounds about Faith when she's in the hospital.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 1:And like what. Going surfing, doing something selfish, just everyday life without caring about it, but posting about it and asking for prayers, and putting on a facade, a mask, if you will. How?
Speaker 2:does that? That would weigh on you so much, not some people. I mean, if let's say, okay, she was in the hospital, you're there beside her, yes, and I'm out at Longhorns eating a steak dinner and you never check on her Right Eating a steak dinner with life support on that child.
Speaker 1:In full organ failure.
Speaker 2:No, way no.
Speaker 1:And I mean you.
Speaker 2:There's no way. I couldn't know it.
Speaker 1:You had tears in your eyes right now. You were crying when you were there.
Speaker 1:You were the most loving father, fat her, fat her, but no, seriously, you were so devoted and you are so devoted to her. But how does a narcissist justify knowing that they have a family member in the hospital in that nature? But then, when they do finally speak to you, they show no remorse, they show no like, hey, how are you doing now? How are you now? You know nothing, nothing like that mean. Do you think that person can change who they are and would you allow them back around faith again?
Speaker 2:Very tentatively as we are doing. We are very protective, so we have allowed both of them around her. Well, somewhat.
Speaker 1:And we're like I said, we're watching.
Speaker 2:We're listening, we're watching Our faith says your actions speak louder than the words, and that is so true for her.
Speaker 1:So then, what, as her dad, what do you do from there?
Speaker 2:I don't know yet we haven't gotten that far. I was going to plug your books in here somewhere, but we haven't. That moment's gone.
Speaker 1:Back. Well, I'm almost done releasing my next book.
Speaker 2:Excuse me. Excuse me what? You have 41 classes under your belt.
Speaker 1:No, not 41 classes See Listen to you, I mean 41 books.
Speaker 2:Sorry, you have 41 books published.
Speaker 1:But they're not all on Amazon. They're different places.
Speaker 2:You have probably I don't know 97 classes listed.
Speaker 1:And now you're writing a third book. How long is it?
Speaker 2:a third book. If I've written 41?, it's going to revolve around the first two, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Not exactly.
Speaker 2:No, it's going to be a pre-sequel sequel. No.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Am I right? No, close, no, okay, so I'm totally different. Yes, okay, good. So your first book was who Keep First? By Victoria Curieie, and the prequel to that was Nort Nort who's there, correct? By Victoria Curie. Yes, now look it up, amazon. What I'm proud of you. I'm always proud of you, woman.
Speaker 1:Even when people question my memory.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have a horrible memory, but you remember everything, unfortunately. I have a horrible memory, but you remember everything, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:It's a curse. It really is, it's just not. It's not a gift people. It's a gift. It's not a gift.
Speaker 2:Earlier you were speaking and you and Dana sat up just like what y'all were talking about from the heart and stuff, and I was like because I listen to some of her TikToks when I'm sitting on the throne, yeah, Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:So you're sitting on the throne listening to my sister from another mister.
Speaker 2:Yes, I scroll through TikTok while I'm sitting on the throne.
Speaker 1:I don't even know where to take that.
Speaker 2:You know it's for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 1:So plop, plop, fizz, fizz. Hey David, what a relief, what no?
Speaker 2:Don't tell Dana, oh Lord.
Speaker 1:Seriously, there's just something wrong with that no, most guys do it. That's why you have hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2:No hemorrhoids from driving so damn much.
Speaker 1:No hemorrhoids are proven, that men are getting more and more hemorrhoids because they're sitting in the toilet and what Scrolling on social media.
Speaker 2:No, bullshit, bullshit. I'm calling bullshit. All you guys out there call bullshit.
Speaker 1:No, they're all sitting on a donut saying she's right man.
Speaker 2:She's right, my booty hurts. That's because they're straining Right While they're on. You don't strain. If you're scrolling, you don't strain. True, that's true. You let it flow natural, lord. When your legs go numb and fall asleep. That's when you get up.
Speaker 1:How do you get up if your legs are numb?
Speaker 2:You just soldier through it.
Speaker 1:You have to say that.
Speaker 2:Oh hey, I was a soldier, I was Air Force. I was proud of it. I wear my Air Force hat every day.
Speaker 1:Can I even buy them for you? You do?
Speaker 2:I carry my car with me everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm married to a redhead car.
Speaker 2:I'm proud to have served my country. I'm happy. Always I wish our kids would go no.
Speaker 1:Faith can't go. Faith can't go in the military.
Speaker 2:No, I won't let her.
Speaker 1:You won't let her.
Speaker 2:That's my baby girl. Don't tell her. I said that, oh, I can't. She'd be in like no girl. Don't tell her. I said that she's being like no, no.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine just for a moment?
Speaker 2:No, Think about it no One drill sergeant get up in her face. That'd be over. That drill sergeant's laid out. She gets that from her mama, by the way. Y'all Stucco's doing great, Stucco's mama's great. They recently had a spa day. Oh, let me show you. And you can describe this.
Speaker 1:You can describe this. So this morning I go in there into Faith's room, okay, and Stucco made her his way into Faith's bedroom and I want you to describe this danger.
Speaker 2:I took. Alright, the bedroom is a mess of shambles. Our dog stuck out. Our dog stuck out. Golden retriever of 88 pounds. Be quiet, that's my baby. It appears that he is laying, he is cheering her laying behind her as close as possible, snuggling our daughter with both his legs up on her, just like a little human would. He is snuggling her from behind. It is the cutest thing he has one paw over her.
Speaker 1:He has another paw on her shoulder.
Speaker 2:And then his head and mouth are resting on her head.
Speaker 1:On her head.
Speaker 2:It's adorable.
Speaker 1:He's not a picture taker. He let me take this picture. And he just laid there with her. Did you push it? No? No, she asked me not to. So there with her. Did you post it? No, I would have posted it. No, she asked me not to. So I respect her. He was so cute and sweet. You even said he has such a good disposition.
Speaker 2:He's so sweet.
Speaker 1:Did you hear that baby Funny. That's my boy, that's my baby.
Speaker 2:He's a fat boy.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So what have you got?
Speaker 1:going on next week besides getting remarried.
Speaker 2:That's enough. Uh-uh, you're turning 50. 50, what? No one likes to turn 50. Well, that's because you're not turning 50.
Speaker 1:No one likes turning 51 either Is that's because you're not turning 50.
Speaker 2:No one likes 3051 either. Better than the alternative. What 49?
Speaker 1:No, not being here anymore, Cracking the bottom of your coffee. Oh, that's nasty. Let's start around. That's nasty.
Speaker 2:It's better than the alternative not being here at all.
Speaker 1:That's a good cappuccino I make. Could you focus? I'm very focused. Yeah, so when will we be building things that are downstairs in boxes? We're talking about podcasting.
Speaker 2:Yep, I hope, so that we can talk about this more.
Speaker 1:So when will you be constructing all of which you said that our daughter needed?
Speaker 2:And that should wrap up the show for tonight.
Speaker 1:No, you're the one who spoils her.
Speaker 2:Seriously, that's my baby doll.
Speaker 1:I said that once I have it, I can replay it. No, oh yeah, I've got it on recording. Uh-huh, and besides, I know what she's doing for you on your birthday.
Speaker 2:So for those of y'all who think a narcissist can change, reach out to us. We have on our website.
Speaker 1:you can contact us and we'll respond, Get you on the show or just write it down and we'll read it on the air and if you're a narcissist, most of the time you will identify yourself as a narcissist. Ask yourself that question and send us your answer.
Speaker 2:I would love to know if narcissists or come on the show.
Speaker 1:It's not common that a narcissist would love to know.
Speaker 2:It's not common that a narcissist would want to come on and show themselves as a narcissist.
Speaker 1:They're not going to want to come on and do that. But a narcissist is not going to want to come out of their home or their house without that mask, metaphorically, so that's just not going to happen, so that won't happen.
Speaker 2:Very often so again, Victoria's doing great from the recent surgeries and we're sorry that it took so long to get back on air, but I felt the need to put this aside.
Speaker 1:It has nothing to do with the fact you think your voice is bad, even though my voice is horrible. No, it's not. Even though I've got so many people who you've been a guest on their show, who says you're a magnificent guest, and they love, love, love, love, love having you on.
Speaker 2:Thank y'all for listening to Unstoppable A Contagious Smile In our little bitty office I don't know how we get by with, but we do. Those of y'all looking to start your own podcast. My wife does help you out with the classes. She teaches a class and she has other friends that are great helping get started on podcasts. Check out the website, thecontagiousspinalcom, and everything we do? What about that mighty place? I forgot that one. The mighty yes.
Speaker 1:Our online academy is called Roots and Leaves, because you can settle down and learn to flourish. We have four different collection areas. Um, we have one for specko squad, which is for our kids. Whether you have special needs or you just want to have some fun, there's some great classes in there. We have safe haven for survivors of all sorts of abuse, including narcissism, which is a very toxic abuse not that they all aren't, because they are and we have the limitless tribe for recovery of anything, even from abuse. We have some in there as well.
Speaker 1:And then we have the podcast gross, where we teach you how we went from literally zero followers to millions, all of the countless thousands of hours and dollars and everything else that went into learning what works and what doesn't work and how to have a podcast. That's in the top. We've been as great as one percent, but then, when faith was in the hospital, we got up to five percent because we took time off justifiably to be with her, and then we got down to three percent and then I think we're back at two um one of the other podcasts is at one and a half percent, but globally that's pretty impressive and so what was the last?
Speaker 1:I mean, each of the podcasts gets six figure down notes. So I mean, that's no, it's because of our amazing followers yes and if you go on uh, pod stars like pop yeah, pop stars, uh, I'll put the link in the show notes. They sent me a video that I included in our instagram reel that they used me as one of their spokespeople to advertise for it's kind of like the competitor of canva uh cameo. Sorry, kind of like cameo, so it's like a pepsi coke kind of um thing.
Speaker 1:But pop stars, uh, you can go on there I'm right next to um john schneider, which is very exciting and go on there, talk to him, or you could talk to me, and then you could also go on their, like you know, competition, which is cameo, and I'm on there too, and, uh, your own cameo. I yeah, and they got on me about the fact that. I don't charge what they think I should but, I don't think you should have to pay $3,200 to talk to somebody that's you know somebody you want to reach out to.
Speaker 2:It's a celebrity.
Speaker 1:I'm not a celebrity.
Speaker 2:I don't know why they think that but you know, hey, Well, y'all go check her out on Cameo Victoria Curie.
Speaker 1:C-U-O-R yeah.
Speaker 2:C-U-O-R. Yeah, y'all, we're signing off. Have a good night and we'll see y'all. Oh, what's today? Tuesday? We'll be back on this weekend.
Speaker 1:I have it recorded. Now I know what are you going to do.
Speaker 2:End the recording. Bye y'all. I didn't hear it. We're still recording.
